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Equipment Boards => Columbia 300 => Topic started by: DP3 on April 25, 2019, 12:14:08 PM
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The Beast is back in 4 colors including the original Purple Pearl. Hypershock w/ Lightbulb + Flip block.
The Messenger is back in 3 colors including the Black/Gold with a new core and Hypershock.
2 new White Dot colors, including WHITE!
Columbia is coming out swinging for the summer season.
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Looks like their Rhino & Twist. I love it for my roached lanes. Screw urethane with these options
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I believe both are going to be a step up from the Rhinos and Twists which are both relatively straight. The New Messenger core looks interesting. Kinda like a football with a halo around it.
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Going to give one of these a try (probably both) since they both have the hypershock covers
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are these re-releases? or just releasing new technology with old names?
i don't remember much about these balls, but my mom had a purple beast and the writing on that was pink
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are these re-releases? or just releasing new technology with old names?
i don't remember much about these balls, but my mom had a purple beast and the writing on that was pink
They're playing on nostalgia a bit for sure.
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They are up on the website. Messengers at 2.57/0.021 with Super-Flex (same cover as the original...in theory!) and Beasts at 2.54/0.035 with Bend-It.
Messenger is looking mighty tempting especially with HyperShock.
Also: R.I.P. Scout/R.
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The reactive Scout/Rs did give quite the motion for a pancake block. That's the new "Superflex" formula. The new core should give it much more shape. These both look like they're going to give some real pop on lighter house shots. I'm sure some of the two handed staffers are going to like a reactive that won't rip off the lane.
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Quick to recommend picking up a Scout/R if go on clearance. With positive side weight those balls own the right (ie spotty crappy) conditions especially if can throw in 16#. Great alternative to urethane.
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I believe the Scout/R’s are also getting new colors
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Wonder how close the Messengers will be to the Deep Freeze. I am pretty stoked about both of these releases.
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Looks like their Rhino & Twist. I love it for my roached lanes. Screw urethane with these options
You are on the right track. I was told that EBI is going hard after the low end market. And are using C300 to do that. They are ready to take on BIg B in that market...
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I believe the Scout/R’s are also getting new colors
Dunno, the whole entry reactive section aka the Scouts just disappeared. Wonder if it'll return with a coverstock change since what was on them is now on the Messenger.
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Anyone crabby that the new cores don't look like the originals even though it probably wouldn't make a difference anyways?
Wanted to see the upside down light bulb in the beast and the lightbulb with the flip block in the messenger...
Oh well...wouldn't be punching up either but how cool would it be to have the purple beast and the black and gold messenger! Those two will sell 10 to 1 compared to the other colors..
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Bring back the Boss line
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Bring back the Boss line
You mean the 900 Global Boost line?
:D
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Nope http://www.columbia300.com/products/balls/retired-balls/boss
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I was very excited to see the Beast until I looked closer and saw that it wasn't going to be a two piece weight block and cover ball like the original. With the filler core I don't have the desire to purchase this.
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I retract my enthusiasm on this "Messenger" since the Freeze line from few years back used a MODIFIED MESSENGER CORE so there's zero reason to bring out one with a totally new core >:(
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I'm not a fan. I think Columbia could have done well going with a retro series in the mid level category along the lines of Brunswick with the Quantums
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Nice to see these new Columbia 300 releases with the retro names. I had a lot of luck with the original Messenger Series. Not so however, with the entire Boss line.
I am glad that they have redesigned these balls to better compete on today's conditions. In my view it is a necessity. I still have several of the originals, and at least in my hands, they present no challenge to the balls being produced today.
Still, I love the nostalgia of using the original names for these new releases.
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I'm not a fan. I think Columbia could have done well going with a retro series in the mid level category along the lines of Brunswick with the Quantums
I'm reading this to say "they should have gone with the Momentums".
I'm on board with this :D
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Bring back the Boss line
You mean the 900 Global Boost line?
:D
They mean just the name lol.
Old school Columbia if anything is 900 global product. All you're buying is an ebonite ball with a name.
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The new C300 Beast Balls will be replacing the Nitrous line. The new Beast core has a slightly lower RG and higher Differential than the Nitrous core as well as an upgraded cover in the Bend-It cover which was featured on past balls like the Vow, Omen, Delirium, Eruption Pro Blue, etc. Columbia 300 has moved its HYPERSHOCK technology all the way down to the LMP price point with these new releases. Previously this was only featured in the top 2 price points.
The Messenger balls will be replacing Scouts. Although the Scout had just a pancake as a core, a pancake still has RG and Differential numbers. The Messenger has an actual weight block in the ball, but the target here was to keep the core numbers and performance similar to that of a Scout. This now also features HYPERSHOCK
Turbo/R - No new technology here. Just some sexy new colors and a great new logo! Went back to the look of the old Turbo fan logo from back in the day.
#TeamEBI
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Will there be videos?
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I still have a lime green Messenger; a purple Beast and an original Scout!
My original Messenger was 2.567 RG/.037 dif. The cover was Super Flex. Will be nice to drill one of each and do a comparison!
I'm thinking that new Beast will have considerable more pop down lane than the old one.
Hey DP3!! None of the Rhinos thrown around here go straight! I know a few people who can hook the lane with a large amount of flare and score with them things! My teammate, a female, has a Twist but cannot control the hook on it as well, but I think she's the exception.
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Hey JJ! I love hearing that area is still a "dry-ths". There's just so much friction in this area. The house shots that I was bowling on in Vegas, these low end balls wouldn't wrinkle. There's so much oil in the fronts out there. Code Black and Storm Fight (with polish) were the weakest balls in my bag at one point just for league. I threw the Scandals, Locks, Tyrant and Crux Series primarily there. OOB surfaces too.
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These will be a welcome upgrade in the low end line. Especially for those of us who could use them in place of the Vibes and Destiny's which were a little on the stronger side of "Dry" Lane Equipment.
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These will be a welcome upgrade in the low end line. Especially for those of us who could use them in place of the Vibes and Destiny's which were a little on the stronger side of "Dry" Lane Equipment.
The Beasts use the Bend-It cover, not weak by any means. They should end up fairly close to the Vibe line maybe 1-2 boards less
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Sometimes you get a strong cover on a lightbulb core and they go sideways down lane. Something tells me that the Beasts are gonna be punchy.
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Does anybody know if there is any noticeable reaction difference between the four Beasts?
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Does anybody know if there is any noticeable reaction difference between the four Beasts?
Don't know yet! I've only seen the black/purple sparkle one in action on a broken down house shot!
This damn thing is punchy for sure. Very consistent though. Buddy of mine went 298-267 on a broken down house shot, when his Choice and Pink Widow kept checking up or going sideways!!
For a dry lane piece, I think folks better go with the Messenger!!!!