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Equipment Boards => Columbia 300 => Topic started by: chadw1974 on August 16, 2008, 10:08:33 AM

Title: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: chadw1974 on August 16, 2008, 10:08:33 AM
For those of you who have both. Is there enough of a difference between the 2 to justify buying the Noize?

I'm just curious. I own the resurgence & i was thinking of buying another ball, possibly the Noize but if there's not much difference between the 2 I think I'll look for something else.
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 16, 2008, 06:15:18 PM
I have watched both ...the Resurgence has lots of midlane...the Noize less.

Reminds of the wonderful Icon plus Icon2 pairing of the past but I think the Resurgence is better than the Icon and the Noize every bit as good as the Icon2(which is a great ball I still use today!).

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 17, 2008, 08:55:27 AM
OH...and go to videoballreviews.com to see both on the same lane with the same player throwing.

Great stuff!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: mmcfarland300 on August 22, 2008, 08:43:40 AM
The Noize is a thing of beauty a Very strong ball OOB for CHEAP!!  I had mine punched up last night with the pin about an inch and a half above and to the right of my ring finger with the cg at 45 degrees and a flare increasing xhole. Wow does this ball perform I can put it wherever I want and it recovers I didn't have alot of trouble with it crossing over but it rolled up very nicely.  I am going to bump it to 2000 abralon as it was burning up a little after a couple games.
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: LuckyLefty on August 22, 2008, 08:56:23 AM
The videos at videoballreviews.com....ARE impressive!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: Joe Jr on August 22, 2008, 10:14:09 AM
I threw my Resurgence and Noize tonight on the Scorpion pattern, the Resurgence is pin up over bridge and the Noize is under bridge with a Xhole 2" down. Both at 2000Grit. The Noize is definitely the stronger of the two, revs up in the mids and very strong backend reaction. The Resurgence is a few boards weaker overall but is earlier and much more rolly.
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Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: mmcfarland300 on August 22, 2008, 10:15:36 AM
Joe Jr, did you ever throw your Noize at 1000?
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: Joe Jr on August 22, 2008, 10:30:33 AM
I did not, I actually polished immediately after putting holes in it but just recently knocked it down to 2000.
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Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: mmcfarland300 on August 22, 2008, 10:33:33 AM
I don't really like putting polish on any of my equipment but I think I will need to push the noize up a bit to 2000
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: dballz on August 22, 2008, 10:36:31 AM
glad to hear the great reviews for the noize.
im punching one up this weekend.
doing a 4 1/2", 45*, and probably leave it at 1000. not sure if im going to do it pin up or pin down. i track pretty high, so i want to make sure i don't go over the holes.
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: mmcfarland300 on August 22, 2008, 10:57:47 AM
Mine is at 1000 and as I said earlier in the post I need to tone it down a tad and am going to push it to 2000.  I am speed dominant and it was still wanting to burn up a little.
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: dballz on August 22, 2008, 11:28:32 AM
have you thought about leaving it at 1000 and put some polish on it? just curious if anyone has one polished?
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: mmcfarland300 on August 22, 2008, 12:41:39 PM
I don't like polishing equipment unless it is a weaker ball being used on charred lanes.  I
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: tdub36tjt on August 22, 2008, 01:40:57 PM
From throwing both this actually surprises me. I would saythey are about the same in strength,  until the lanes begin to dry up. I noticed the Noize doesn't seem to burn up as bad so it will cover more boards as the lanes get drier but from what I have seen on oil the Resurgence is probably 3 or 4 boards stronger. Maybe your Resurgence is a little oil soaked?? I notice I have to remove the oil every 20 games or so or I can notice a big drop off in reaction from my Resurgence. The Noize is still a very strong piece though.But I don't know about it being stronger than the Resurgence.

quote:
I threw my Resurgence and Noize tonight on the Scorpion pattern, the Resurgence is pin up over bridge and the Noize is under bridge with a Xhole 2" down. Both at 2000Grit. The Noize is definitely the stronger of the two, revs up in the mids and very strong backend reaction. The Resurgence is a few boards weaker overall but is earlier and much more rolly.
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My Vid (http://"http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e56/RevLefty/Vids/?action=view¤t=ArchRival1.flv")
Formerly Brunswick Lefty & Richard Cranium


Edited on 7/9/1997 12:43 PM

Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: Joe Jr on August 22, 2008, 02:28:29 PM
quote:
From throwing both this actually surprises me. I would saythey are about the same in strength,  until the lanes begin to dry up. I noticed the Noize doesn't seem to burn up as bad so it will cover more boards as the lanes get drier but from what I have seen on oil the Resurgence is probably 3 or 4 boards stronger. Maybe your Resurgence is a little oil soaked?? I notice I have to remove the oil every 20 games or so or I can notice a big drop off in reaction from my Resurgence. The Noize is still a very strong piece though.But I don't know about it being stronger than the Resurgence.


I'm going to say the my Noize is stronger because of the drilling. It surprised me a little too, I assumed the Resurgence would be the stronger of the two also. I's sure with the same drillings the Resurgence would be the stronger ball.
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Formerly Brunswick Lefty & Richard Cranium


Edited on 7/9/1997 12:43 PM
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: Jay on August 23, 2008, 12:22:59 AM
Would you guys say the Noize is even stronger than the Momentum Swing?  My initial guess when it came out was that it's a step under the Swing.  After watching videos I got the impression that it's even weaker than an Arch Rival, which the numbers suggest as well.  But with the Resurgence cover it has to at least be stronger than the Momentum, and the core pushes the ball down the lane some so I'm thinking it's possibly not very different from the Swing in hook, just more angular.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: SVstar34 on August 23, 2008, 01:08:56 AM
I would definitely put the Swing above the Noize in hook potential, both are angular on med-heavy oil. I haven't really been able to throw the Swing that much because I dont see enough oil right now, but I've been able to throw the Noize for 2 games before having to put it away.

My take on Columbia's High Performance lineup.
C-300 High Performance by Angularity: Momentum, Arch Rival, Noize, Swing, Rival, Resurgence
C-300 High Performance by Hook Potential: Resurgence, Swing, Arch Rival, Noize, Rival, Momentum
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Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: mmcfarland300 on August 23, 2008, 08:40:09 AM
I think on overall hook the Arch Rival and Noize are very close maybe too close to seperate I do think the Noize has more continuation.  I know my Noize is a beast.

c300 overall hook Resurgence, Swing, Noize/Arch Rival, (too close to seperate)
Momentum, Rival
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: Jay on August 23, 2008, 03:01:57 PM
This was my take on the hook potential: Resurgence, Momentum Swing, Momentum, Arch Rival, Noize, Rival.  It's really hard to believe the Noize is not stronger than the Arch Rival though, considering the cover.
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: SVstar34 on August 23, 2008, 03:06:35 PM
The Arch Rival is actually a very strong ball. I haven't seen very many people talking about it, which to me is very weird.

You could easily make a 3 ball arsenal + spareball from columbia's lineup
Arch Rival, Rival, Dead Flush
Resurgence, Noize, Dead Flush
Swing, Momentum, Dead Flush
Resurgence, Momentum, Dead Flush

Columbia's lineup compliments everyball very well
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Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: mmcfarland300 on August 23, 2008, 03:20:08 PM
The Noize is listed as having more backend than the entire C300 lineup except for the Momentum Swing.
Title: Re: Resurgence vs Noize
Post by: tdub36tjt on August 23, 2008, 05:28:35 PM
I would say the Noize is stronger than the Arch Rival, but the Arch Rival would be stronger off the dry. The Noize definitly needs oil. Its onl good for me for first game then I have to switch, which is when I usually go to the Resurgence, but I heavily polished my Resurgence.