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Title: Super Trooper
Post by: billy2gun on November 10, 2006, 04:01:07 AM
I am looking into purchasing a Super Trooper as the second ball in an arsenal that I am considering. I've done a great deal of web research on the ball, and I wanted to know if anyone at present is still throwing the ball, and could provide more updated feedback other than what is currently on the ballreviews. com site?

Many Thanks,
billy2gun
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"Danny...A flute without holes is not a flute, and a donut without a hole is a danish..Na.na.na.na..na..."
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: cmoore3wins on November 10, 2006, 03:18:52 PM
Super Trooper as a second ball would depend on what the first ball is and what you bowl on....

I have one but seldom get to use it anymore. Pin is under ring finger and it currently has 500 abralon and no polish. I drilled it up for second shift or drier conditions. I am RH with medium speed and revs. Ball is smooth and is easy to control. Before I switched to MoRich, I used it alot with some sucess. I prefer to play deep inside on a THS and this ball was not for that for me. However, it was my go to ball on beat up wood lanes with high oil volume in middle and dry outside. I still carry it and is my #2 choice behind Shock & Awe on above mentioned wood lanes.

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MoRich makes me mo rich, cuz I sell the 300 & 800 rings on eBay....
While you're leaving corners, I am laughing inwardly....
My core has a hole in it, but your score sheet does....
I flip out ten pins, you flip them off....
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: billy2gun on November 10, 2006, 07:32:50 PM
The ball I currently bowl is a White Dot. I am a beginner..meaning I've bowled before using house balls, but now I'm looking to take bowling more seriously and competively. Looking to join a league, etc.. I was consider a Scout Reactive as a second ball, but from what I've read about the Super Trooper, the Trooper is a step or few steps above the Scout, and there's more you can do with a Trooper than a Scout Reactive. Let me know if I'm off base with this line of thinking. Also, if the Trooper isn't a good ball to consider, can you suggest one that's a better choice? I need to make frugal and wise choice given a tight budget.
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"Danny...A flute without holes is not a flute, and a donut without a hole is a danish..Na.na.na.na..na..."

Edited on 11/10/2006 8:28 PM
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: cmoore3wins on November 11, 2006, 03:09:36 AM
Super Trooper is a good a ball. Chris Barnes threw one on TV a couple of years ago. It is a few steps up from a white dot. Unless you are a high speed, low revs guy on heavy oil, it will be a good choice and probably fairly cheap. I was away from bowling for 15 years and came back in 2004. I had 300's and 800's with $35.00 balls shortly after my return!
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MoRich makes me mo rich, cuz I sell the 300 & 800 rings on eBay....
While you're leaving corners, I am laughing inwardly....
My core has a hole in it, but your score sheet does....
I flip out ten pins, you flip them off....
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: BOA_ELF on November 11, 2006, 08:17:39 AM
Well I still throw the Super Trooper as my go too ball.  I have been using it for the past 2 seasons.  This ball is very smooth through the heads and great recovery on the back end.  Mine is drilled for strong arch reaction.   The Super Trooper longevity in coverstock is unmatched too any other ball in my arsenal as it now has over 1200 games on it.  As you stated being a beginner I think this may be a good choice as the next step. I just shot my first 300 using the Super Trooper Oct. 17 this year.

Hope this Helps.


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Yes I am a Lefty
Good scores to all  Elliott
Arsenal:=Columbia-Action, U-turn Pearl,Super Trooper, Scout Reactive, White Dot
Highest series 718 done 4 weeks before shoulder surgery
Highest series after surgery to date: 739 done 2-23-06
Highest sanctioned series ever 739
300 Game shot with Super Trooper 10-17-06
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: Silencer on November 12, 2006, 03:27:17 AM
The Super Trooper is the greastest ball ever made. I have had mine for over 2 years now. It EASILY has over 750 games on it and it still works very well. It is not a ball to be used for on fresh oily lanes, but like the others said, once it starts drying up, it's a monster. It has always been my go to ball in tournaments and has won me plenty of money in tournaments. I even have another NIB super trooper in my closet, incase my current one ever cracks or something of that sort. If you are debating between a Scout and a Super Trooper, I would for sure say get a Super Trooper.
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And Then...........

I left another 10 pin

J-Rad Lawrence
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: billy2gun on November 13, 2006, 08:49:00 AM
I'd like to thank all of you who responded to my post about the Super Trooper. Your input has really helped with solidfying my decision to purchase a Trooper as the second ball in my growing arsenal. If anyone runs across a 14lbs Trooper on the web, please let me know.

billy
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"Danny...A flute without holes is not a flute, and a donut without a hole is a danish..Na.na.na.na..na..."
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 16, 2006, 11:45:55 PM
great spoof post!  

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: Strider on November 17, 2006, 06:13:15 AM
quote:
great spoof post!  

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..


Um, why?  Looks like a serious post about people still liking and looking for a Super Trooper.  It's actually a ball I've given some thought about.  Low RG, low differential - light oil control ball.  Orbit Extreme and the Jolts (and a few others that are escaping me right now) should give a similar look and are currently available.
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Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: charlest on November 17, 2006, 06:57:00 AM
FYI If you can't find a Super Trooper, the AMF Orbit Extreme and the Dyno-Thane Crisis Solid are all in the same vein: highly polished Super-Flex solid coverstock over medium RG core with low flare. All 3 balls are within a eye-lash of ball reaction of one another.

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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: directdrill on November 17, 2006, 07:05:38 AM

quote:
great spoof post!  

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..


LL,

Care to explain how this could be classified as a spoof post?  Seems like his questions are legitimate.  Still won't give up on the conspiracy theories, will you?
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Hook 'em Horns!
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: Luckyzzzzz on November 17, 2006, 07:50:49 AM
The Super Trooper was the ball I chose when I got back into bowling 3 yrs ago.  I will agree with just about everything said so far.  The ball is very forgiving, has a nice controllable arcing backend, and the core keeps the pins mixing really well.  I currently still have the ball in my aresenal as my low to medium oil ball.  The only shortcoming I've found with the ball is when I encounter a lane with burnt heads and/or mids.  Ball will react early on these conditions, but then you'd probably be using a different ball anyway.

I've shot a 296 (choke!) with this ball and both my 770's.  Nothing flashy with this ball, but I know exactly what I'm going to get out of it, and it's very easy to read the lanes with this ball.  And like was said, the coverstock's endurance is unmatched.  

Basicaly, when you get this ball, you should just have your proshop put your name on the thing, as you'll never get rid of it.

--Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions about the ball.--
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 17, 2006, 09:06:30 AM
"I'd like to thank all of you who responded to my post about the Super Trooper. Your input has really helped with solidfying my decision to purchase a Trooper as the second ball in my growing arsenal. If anyone runs across a 14lbs Trooper on the web, please let me know."

Translation...thanks for all the info on the Super Trooper...I'm buying a trooper.

Three ids Billy2gun, Billy300(always a guy with 300 after name), and Billy...
Created almost on same days...no profile some with no posts....

And then spoofer above...all through the site...nearly every day.  Posts that almost sort of make sense but not quite.  Someone or ones are having tons of fun!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS I have a Super Trooper...like it!  Similar to my Roto Sonic X solid!
PPS User lists   number of posts   date established.
  Billy123       0  11/6/2002  
  billy2gun      10 11/10/2006  
  billy300       0  10/28/2006  

Future ids for pack posting!
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: Strider on November 17, 2006, 09:25:59 AM
So these other Billy ID's that were generated within a few weeks of each other, that aren't even part of this post, are a problem?  I thought Bill was a pretty common name, and having 300 as part of your name is already popular here.

I finally picked up a ball released about the same time (Roto Grip Retro Red).  If I make a thread asking about other's experiences, would I be a spoofer?  There is a strider2k1 that has no posts that joined 4 months later than me in 2001.  I guess that's my future pack poster?

I think I know what a spoofer is, and I don't see anything about billy2gun's posts that would put him in that catagory.
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Special thanks to Dynothane, Visionary, and Lane#1 for donations to the Ballreviews Get Together.

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Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 17, 2006, 09:37:11 AM
Again... finishes with I like your ideas on Super Trooper...
Tell me when you see a Trooper for sale!  NOT Super Trooper.  

Almost makes sort of silly sense in a silly sort of ball reviews silly world.
But not quite.

These pairs of ids are created every day...with no posts!  For the future.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: bgh on November 17, 2006, 09:42:53 AM
The Super Trooper is what I would consider an "honest ball". It will keep you out of trouble when the lanes are flaky and is fairly good on medium/medium light to semi dry conditions.  

The Superflex coverstock is a proven stock.  This I believe is a solid version (Columbia does not reference whether it is solid or not).  Working with the coverstock quite a bit, I would say it is a solid and looks like it has a magical dusting of some derivation of very very light non abrasive crystalline (don't know, please enlighten me, if you know).  I also like the removal of any flip blocks... it will roll earlier and has an earlier mid lane transition move.

One thing I didn't like was the pronounced Silver Sparkle Engraving etchings (the highest markings I've ever seen on a ball), which caused me and my ball driller a shet fit.  My drilling, the CG was kicked out towards the PAP, which unfornately skipped me right over the very raised silver little super trooper drawing etching.  I had to resurface the ball like three times to smooth out the etching as not to get the sound of very small tire chains as it hit a certain area in the track. (high rolling track)

All is cool in KeglerXland with this ball.  One of my favorites.  What ever your hand does to the ball, it kindly returns the favor.  Thus, Honest! Love it. Superflex is great.
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KEG LERX
"The pins adhere to the law of the "Golden Rule"."
Old Ball Arsenal Registry (includes drilling Specs)still working on the new one @ Allbowling.com (http://"http://www.allbowling.com/registry/public.php?regid=7")
Track to Bowl, Columbia to Throw, RG to Roll.







Edited on 11/17/2006 12:25 PM
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: RealBowler on November 17, 2006, 09:44:14 AM
quote:
Again... finishes with I like your ideas on Super Trooper...
Tell me when you see a Trooper for sale!  NOT Super Trooper.  

Almost makes sort of silly sense in a silly sort of ball reviews silly world.
But not quite.

These pairs of ids are created every day...with no posts!  For the future.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..



ummm, he said he was a beginner.  maybe he doesn't know there is a trooper and a super trooper.
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Haywood

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Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: directdrill on November 17, 2006, 09:45:55 AM
quote:
Again... finishes with I like your ideas on Super Trooper...
Tell me when you see a Trooper for sale!  NOT Super Trooper.  

Almost makes sort of silly sense in a silly sort of ball reviews silly world.
But not quite.

These pairs of ids are created every day...with no posts!  For the future.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..


LL,

Is he not free to change his mind?  Seems like he is being polite and thanking people for their input.  Perhaps he could purchase a Super Trooper later down the road?  Just a thought.  Why do you always think that people have bad intentions on this site?
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Hook 'em Horns!
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 17, 2006, 09:55:57 AM
As part of most of these spoof posts...YOU KNOW the guy knows more about bowling than he is trying to act like.  The Super Troop and Trooper are long gone balls.  That is what these posts are all about.

Knowledgeable guys playing sort of dumb...and then posting weird conclusions.

Thanks for info on SuperTrooper...I'm buying  TROOPER.

COME on.  BAllreviews spoof posting site!

Direct...of course YOU know the intent!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..

Edited on 11/17/2006 10:51 AM
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: directdrill on November 17, 2006, 09:59:58 AM
quote:
Direct...of course YOU know the intent!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..


LL,

I and MANY others have no idea what you are talking about.  Where is your proof?  By the way, how is your investigation going on me and my "mutliple ids".  If your claim is found to be incorrect, will you post that you were wrong?
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Hook 'em Horns!
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: Danes07 on November 17, 2006, 10:07:26 AM
LL,
Seems to make sense to me that if this guy is a beginner who has been bowling with a white dot, the Trooper/Super Trooper comment is an honest mistake.  He probably doesn't know that they are two different balls and just typed Trooper as an abbreviation.

Not everything on this site or the internet is a conspiracy or spoofing, as you seem to believe it is.  Lighten Up man.
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 17, 2006, 10:22:57 AM
DirectDrill...Jorge..300 could not have said it different...or better!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: directdrill on November 17, 2006, 10:25:44 AM
Same posts, no proof.  The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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Hook 'em Horns!
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: billy2gun on November 17, 2006, 11:21:21 AM
quote:
quote:
Again... finishes with I like your ideas on Super Trooper...
Tell me when you see a Trooper for sale!  NOT Super Trooper.  

Almost makes sort of silly sense in a silly sort of ball reviews silly world.
But not quite.

These pairs of ids are created every day...with no posts!  For the future.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..



ummm, he said he was a beginner.  maybe he doesn't know there is a trooper and a super trooper.
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Haywood

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I don't need a stupid
signature. This is enough.
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This is Billy2Gun...my real name is Curtis [BTW].

I do know the difference between a Trooper and a Super Trooper. I've researched both. Point of clarification..I am seeking a 14lb. Columbia 300 Super Trooper-NIB to compliment my Columbia 300 14lb. White Dot. Given the various and generous feedback from the more experienced bowlers on this post/forum, my decision to purchase a SUPER Trooper, not a Trooper has been solidified. However, I do appreciate as much feedback about the ball [The Super Trooper] as possible...information is ammunition.

Spare Ball: White Dot
Dry: Hammer Vibe-Blue
Light to Medium Oil: The Super Trooper
Medium Oil: Roto-Grip Venus
Medium to Heavy Oil: Roto-Grip Horizion Solid
Heavy Oil: ????

I am PENN STATE PROUD, and part of the mighty STEELERS NATION!
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"Danny...A flute without holes is not a flute, and a donut without a hole is a danish..Na.na.na.na..na..."

Edited on 11/17/2006 12:16 PM

Edited on 11/17/2006 12:28 PM
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 17, 2006, 11:31:58 AM
Curtis...welcome from PennState!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: billy2gun on November 17, 2006, 11:37:57 AM
quote:
The Super Trooper is what I would consider an "honest ball". It will keep you out of trouble when the lanes are flaky and is fairly good on medium/medium light to semi dry conditions.  

The Superflex coverstock is a proven stock.  This I believe is a solid version (Columbia does not reference whether it is solid or not).  Working with the coverstock quite a bit, I would say it is a solid and looks like it has a magical dusting of some derivation of very very light non abrasive crystalline (don't know, please enlighten me, if you know).  I also like the removal of any flip blocks... it will roll earlier and has an earlier mid lane transition move.

One thing I didn't like was the pronounced Silver Sparkle Engraving etchings (the highest markings I've ever seen on a ball), which caused me and my ball driller a shet fit.  My drilling, the CG was kicked out towards the PAP, which unfornately skipped me right over the very raised silver little super trooper drawing etching.  I had to resurface the ball like three times to smooth out the etching as not to get the sound of very small tire chains as it hit a certain area in the track. (high rolling track)

All is cool in KeglerXland with this ball.  One of my favorites.  What ever your hand does to the ball, it kindly returns the favor.  Thus, Honest! Love it. Superflex is great.
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KEG LERX
"The pins adhere to the law of the "Golden Rule"."
Old Ball Arsenal Registry (includes drilling Specs)still working on the new one @ Allbowling.com (http://"http://www.allbowling.com/registry/public.php?regid=7")
Track to Bowl, Columbia to Throw, RG to Roll.


Thank you for your helpful feedback!

Billy2Gun




Edited on 11/17/2006 12:25 PM

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"Danny...A flute without holes is not a flute, and a donut without a hole is a danish..Na.na.na.na..na..."
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: billy2gun on November 17, 2006, 11:39:15 AM
quote:
Curtis...welcome from PennState!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..


Do you reside in Centre County?
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"Danny...A flute without holes is not a flute, and a donut without a hole is a danish..Na.na.na.na..na..."
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: LuckyLefty on November 17, 2006, 11:42:29 AM
It's nice to have more Penn Staters here.

They are some of the "guys" out here!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: billy2gun on November 17, 2006, 11:43:53 AM
quote:
It's nice to have more Penn Staters here.

They are some of the "guys" out here!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..


LL, Where do you bowl?
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"Danny...A flute without holes is not a flute, and a donut without a hole is a danish..Na.na.na.na..na..."
Title: Re: Super Trooper
Post by: Centers on November 18, 2006, 10:27:30 AM
If you are looking for a Super Trooper, I know my brother has one in his proshop, and I can let you know the weight say Monday.  If memory serves me right, I think it is a 14.  I can also give you a final price when he gets back into town.