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Title: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: BallReviews-TECH on January 21, 2015, 11:58:58 AM
Some of you are probably wondering what the heck happened to the "non-moderated" tag on this board.

After much discussion, the moderators have decided that the "non-moderated" board should be shut down. We are simply tired of trying to decide what is/isn't worthy of moderation (yes, the board said "non-moderated" but anyone who read the sticky at the top knew we reserved the right to moderate in some cases). Most threads in that board had simply devolved into personal attacks and fights between different users. We don't want that to be who we are as a site so, while we don't like losing a part of our site, this decision was made.

-BR-Tech
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Monster Pike on January 21, 2015, 12:02:33 PM
Wow.  And things were starting to settle down, I thought.

Ok.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: livespive on January 21, 2015, 12:07:53 PM
I'm just glad I wasn't having big computer issues.

I'll miss it, but oh well.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: michelle on January 21, 2015, 12:10:17 PM
would have been nice to have some notice so that certain threads could have been printed out that actually had useful discussion...

Any chance of putting it back up as a 'read-only' for a period of time?
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Impending Doom on January 21, 2015, 12:18:50 PM
And now the trolls have no where to go!!!
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: xrayjay on January 21, 2015, 12:19:35 PM
And now the trolls have no where to go!!!

i was just about to say the same thing....
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Monster Pike on January 21, 2015, 12:20:33 PM
And now the trolls have no where to go!!!

Well, I had a fun 7 years while the non-misc. forum lasted.  Maybe I'll get a little more work done now...  :o :P ;D
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Monster Pike on January 21, 2015, 12:22:50 PM
Maybe this is where the "trolls" will come now... Ha ha. ;D
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: milorafferty on January 21, 2015, 12:24:20 PM
And now the trolls have no where to go!!!

Oh yea they do, they will be coming to the rest of the site. I bet the moderators will be very busy (for a while at least) in the "regular" boards. LOL
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Greg T on January 21, 2015, 12:35:49 PM
 
 
  I've had 14 years of friendship on this site. Now, just because my health no longer allows me to bowl, I have no reason to discuss bowling. The NB-Misc bowling forum is all I had left to stay connected to my friends here.  It's been a pleasure, my good friends. The good times and the bad, somehow it always worked out. I'm going to miss this place and all of you in a huge way. Be well, folks.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: xrayjay on January 21, 2015, 12:48:45 PM
Greg T = BR legend...
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Greg T on January 21, 2015, 12:54:21 PM
 
 Apparently, collateral damage is inconsequential. This is the thanks we old timers receive for our many years of support for this site. Nice. Real nice.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Monster Pike on January 21, 2015, 12:56:17 PM

 
  I've had 14 years of friendship on this site. Now, just because my health no longer allows me to bowl, I have no reason to discuss bowling. The NB-Misc bowling forum is all I had left to stay connected to my friends here.  It's been a pleasure, my good friends. The good times and the bad, somehow it always worked out. I'm going to miss this place and all of you in a huge way. Be well, folks.

Same here Greg.  Despite our recent disagreements I still thought you were a decent hippy dude...  You still got your cars, music, family & that beautiful UP location of yours.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: livespive on January 21, 2015, 01:00:18 PM
Just remember you can PM those that you want to contact.

I will.

Until the next game.


 
  I've had 14 years of friendship on this site. Now, just because my health no longer allows me to bowl, I have no reason to discuss bowling. The NB-Misc bowling forum is all I had left to stay connected to my friends here.  It's been a pleasure, my good friends. The good times and the bad, somehow it always worked out. I'm going to miss this place and all of you in a huge way. Be well, folks.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Joe Cool on January 21, 2015, 01:07:51 PM
Interesting decision making.   Well, I can't say I'm shocked but it is a bit disappointing.  YGWYD I guess...
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: 9andaWiggle on January 21, 2015, 01:08:01 PM
There's a few trolls I'm sure are happy now. They finally succeeded in getting it shut down. Congrats. :(
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Joe Cool on January 21, 2015, 01:11:36 PM
There's a few trolls I'm sure are happy now. They finally succeeded in getting it shut down. Congrats. :(


There were a lot of people that contributed on both sides. 
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: 9andaWiggle on January 21, 2015, 01:25:59 PM
Those that are guilty know who they are, but they don't care. Got what they wanted, so I don't expect to see any remorse for their actions.

It's too bad for others that enjoyed the forum that a few had to ruin it for all, but that's the way it usually goes. I'll leave it at that - no sense arguing about it anymore, we're all adults, and we all saw and know what happened and who all were involved and how.

Thanks to BR admins/moderators for trying to police the worst offenders and keep the forum open as long as they did. I'm actually kind of surprised this didn't come a long time ago.

On edit; I've said my piece on the matter, and will say no more. Right or wrong, agree or disagree, these are my feelings on the matter. I will now, for the sake of BR and everyone's sanity, let it go and move on.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Brickguy221 on January 21, 2015, 01:28:59 PM
I have been here for 12 years and on one hand hate to see it closed down, but will say the behavior and personal attacks got so bad, that I had quit posting in the misc forum recently and even also quit coming to it to view as much as I once did.

It is evident that the things that have gone on in this forum the past 2-3 years or so have run a lot of respected people off from this site. Even after the recent banishment of certain posters, a certain poster still here has done his best to replace a banished one at keeping the pot stirred, even after being called out about it by some respected posters.

I think that if everyone will be really-really honest with themselves, they will admit that things were still out of hand here and this why the mods shut it down. I don't like it anybetter than anyone else does, yet, it couldn't be allowed to continue as it was doing.

Maybe after a cooling off period, it will be re-started with some stricter guide lines like BBE which has a zero tolerance policy on personal attacks. Eliminate personal attacks and their should be no problems.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Djarum on January 21, 2015, 01:38:19 PM
It's been fun.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: BMFOBR on January 21, 2015, 02:00:57 PM
Was looking forward to checking it out as a couple of buddies told me it was a riot to watch. 
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Monster Pike on January 21, 2015, 02:03:31 PM
Was looking forward to checking it out as a couple of buddies told me it was a riot to watch.

Welcome to the boards... ;)
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: PaulDennis on January 21, 2015, 02:17:14 PM
Just when we had made progress toward putting our differences behind us earlier today.

The timing is rather odd.  Be well to you too.  And to many others.


 
  I've had 14 years of friendship on this site. Now, just because my health no longer allows me to bowl, I have no reason to discuss bowling. The NB-Misc bowling forum is all I had left to stay connected to my friends here.  It's been a pleasure, my good friends. The good times and the bad, somehow it always worked out. I'm going to miss this place and all of you in a huge way. Be well, folks.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Jorge300 on January 21, 2015, 03:46:19 PM
There a lot of people I met through the Misc. Non-Bowling board that I am going to miss interacting with. Some others, not so much. But I would vote for bringing the board back in some form. Allow some of the saltly language that isn't allowed in the bowling boards, just outlaw any personal attacks. Give everyone a warning if they break that rule once, and ban them if they break it again within a certain time frame. This will allow for some disagreements, without the continued personal attacks that the board descended to. It will force people to move on from arguements and stop bringing things up over and over again.
 
If not, I hope all those who I have conversed with in public and private will continue to be well. Greg T, I hope this isn't the last time I get to converse with you, but if it is, it has been an honor to get to know you a little and I wish you and your family nothing but the best in the future.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: jls on January 21, 2015, 03:51:44 PM
Greg...back at you...it was fun going back and forth...I blame Obama
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: milorafferty on January 21, 2015, 03:53:25 PM
I still feel the non-misc boards problems could be solved with a suggestion I made previously. That being where a user could prevent a specific user from posting to their thread. The truly caustic posts would disappear very quickly when they had no where to post those comments directed at their favorite target.


Similar to the "Ignore List" or the Ignore List could include an option to prevent users on this list from posting in their topic.

This would isolate the problem children real fast, including me.  ;D


http://www.ballreviews.com/comments-and-suggestions/would-like-to-prevent-selected-userusers-from-posting-in-thread-t304440.0.html
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: sevenpin63 on January 21, 2015, 04:01:32 PM
WOW!! Doesn't this just suck.

Well some of us knew this was coming if things didn't settle down, it is what it is.
And 9~, yes some people got what they wanted.

I found myself posting less and less, but would still come in and read all of the antics going on in the forum. I made some good friends in here also, and don't be strangers as I will check in once in a while, and check my in box. Or if I need some bowling info as I still do bowl.

Good luck everyone, and be good.

Dang now I have to find another place to hang out and converse. :(
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: jls on January 21, 2015, 04:01:52 PM
It seems we are still here and posting...I don't know where...but we are still here...see pike...that's why I always use xxxx
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Steven on January 21, 2015, 04:03:50 PM
I still feel the non-misc boards problems could be solved with a suggestion I made previously. That being where a user could prevent a specific user from posting to their thread. The truly caustic posts would disappear very quickly when they had no where to post those comments directed at their favorite target.


Agreed. Unfortunately, there were a very few who's pure agenda was troublemaking, and there wasn't a mechanism for isolating their behavior. Having a non-misc board that has tools for moderation without the mods intervening would be a win-win all around. I had hoped your suggestion would have been implemented. 
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: jls on January 21, 2015, 04:15:39 PM
Well come join us on facebook... ;D ;)
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Monster Pike on January 21, 2015, 04:32:00 PM
It seems we are still here and posting...I don't know where...but we are still here...see pike...that's why I always use xxxx

 ::)  YSomehow, I don't think yours or anyone's cuss words red x or no red x had any bearing on their decision to kick the forum to the curb.  But keep telling yourself that those red xx made your words any less offensive than they were.  It was the personal attacks, like the author of this thread said... swear words or not. 

A final straw must have broke the camel's back... Big part, I believe it was as stated by the author, the babysitting the mods felt they had to do with all of the complaints recently w/folks "wanting their board back" & them seeing all of the personal garbage being slung back n forth... Instead of some just leaving well enough alone...  So be careful what you wish for sometimes, ya just might get it... for everyone. 

Oh well, I respect their decision.  It is what it is.  Was a fun group of characters, even w/the disagreements, that's for sure.  Maybe will see some of you in the bowling forums.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: michelle on January 21, 2015, 05:13:30 PM
Well come join us on facebook... ;D ;)

never had it, never will
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: MI 2 AZ on January 21, 2015, 05:15:20 PM
Wow, just got back from bowling and saw this topic.  Have to go read it now, maybe comment more later.  But, I have to say that I am not really all that surprised.  There was a lot of personal attacks going on in there and I suspect, a lot of complaining to the mods so they must have felt they had to do something but I would not have thought this would be the result.


Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Ragnar on January 21, 2015, 05:24:09 PM
Well come join us on facebook... ;D ;)

never had it, never will
me 3
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Scolai on January 21, 2015, 05:29:25 PM
I'm just shy of my 13th year on BR.  When I bowled, I posted on both the Misc Non-bowling forum and the Bowling forum.  I stopped bowling 4 years ago, but I'd made connections on this site that I wasn't willing to just walk away from.  I consider the people here my distant friends, even though most of us have never met face to face.

Once I left bowling, I had no reason to visit the ball boards or the bowling forum, so I just lingered on the Misc Non-bowling forum.  I guess that whole thing has been kicked to the curb.

Thanks for the warning, guys.  I appreciate the kick in the nuts.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Spider Man on January 21, 2015, 05:29:33 PM
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Monster Pike on January 21, 2015, 05:46:51 PM

I love "Dust in the Wind", was this meant for our posts being "farts in the wind"? ???
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: BMFOBR on January 21, 2015, 06:09:35 PM
Could be.  One man's dust is another's gas, or something like that.   ;)

My guess is the posting of personal information of another user by a current member on behalf of a banned member was the last straw.  The personal information posting or threat of it was the capital offense that the mods would not abide.  They stepped over the line of forum decorum.  That's what I was told by the mods.  Cest la vie.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Anaconda on January 21, 2015, 07:34:32 PM
I was a member of e-teamz before it became Ball Reviews. I posted mainly in the other forums,never in the un-moderated, just liked to read all the nonsense going on.It's like you've lost a pet or something like that.
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: REVerse on January 21, 2015, 09:29:25 PM
Not over until ...


Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Brickguy221 on January 21, 2015, 10:24:42 PM
Well come join us on facebook... ;D ;)

never had it, never will
me 3

Me 4
Title: Re: What happened to the non-bowling/non-moderated board?
Post by: Greg T on January 21, 2015, 10:35:37 PM
 Thanx a bunch, Jorge. It's been a terrific ride from the ETeamz days right on thru. Since I'm pretty sure they will not allow this thread to continue much longer I want to you I hope everything goes well for you and the loved ones.  Best wishes in everything you do.
 
 Same goes for everyone else here. Best wishes to all.
 
 
There a lot of people I met through the Misc. Non-Bowling board that I am going to miss interacting with. Some others, not so much. But I would vote for bringing the board back in some form. Allow some of the saltly language that isn't allowed in the bowling boards, just outlaw any personal attacks. Give everyone a warning if they break that rule once, and ban them if they break it again within a certain time frame. This will allow for some disagreements, without the continued personal attacks that the board descended to. It will force people to move on from arguements and stop bringing things up over and over again.
 
If not, I hope all those who I have conversed with in public and private will continue to be well. Greg T, I hope this isn't the last time I get to converse with you, but if it is, it has been an honor to get to know you a little and I wish you and your family nothing but the best in the future.