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no300yet

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1500 and 3000 grit Siaair pads
« on: February 06, 2010, 09:50:42 AM »
Since I saw Bowling.com and bowlingball.com only offer 1000; 2000;4000 grit; etc.( both Abralon and Siaair)I was about to ask the question: "how do I get my balls to 1500 grit surface? "

Thanks to the tip from "JJ" I found those pads at bowlingbeat.com for US $4.25 each including shipping. I got mine in a week and they appear to be well made( made in Switzerland)but not by Brunswick(?).

I understand we are supposed to use them wet but what should I expect if I just use them dry, like a quick touch-up during the game?

 

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Re: 1500 and 3000 grit Siaair pads
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2010, 10:31:37 AM »
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Or just try on a jayhawk cock machine 3 different pads like 2x 2000 Grit and 1x 500 Grit is a total of 4500 Grit on 3 discs so we have 1500 Grit average


Seriously?

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Re: 1500 and 3000 grit Siaair pads
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2010, 01:29:58 PM »
J Mac is 100% correct here.

Ebonite gets 75 balls out of a pad because of the way they do things.

If you use an Abralon or Sia Air on a spinner you tend to wear it out much faster for a few reasons:

1. it''s impossible to use totally even pressure on a pad on a spinner which will lead to premature and uneven wear
2. if you are using a pad on a spinner you are most likely dealing with a ball that has holes in it..these holes accelerate wear on the pads.
3. a ball spinner travels at roughly 500 rpm. a resurfacing machine rotates the ball at approx 25 rpm. this translates into faster pad wear.
4. when using a resurfacer it uses 3 pads instead of just 1 on a spinner. this spreads the wear out among the 3 discs instead of just the one.
5. there is no way to use the amount of water on a spinner than when Ebonite uses a resurfacer at the factory...they let the water run full stream and basically flood the surface of the ball with  water. this not only removes the slurry from the ball but also lubricates the pads.

Also it was shown to us that Ebonite uses 4 separate machines to do each ball and each ball stays on each machine for only 56 seconds.

With all of these factors taken into account I can forsee how Ebonite gets that kind of wear out of a pad.
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Edited on 2/7/2010 2:41 PM
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Re: 1500 and 3000 grit Siaair pads
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2010, 05:11:23 PM »
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One word of caution regarding your final question...
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... like a quick touch-up during the game?


This is considered altering the surface of a ball and is not allowed during USBC play so don't do it unless you are willing to let the ball sit out 6 frames of competition (USBC rule). Take it for what it's worth.
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Are you serious? Even when the "game" is just practice? Just kidding Thanks for the warning, Doug, I didn't know that!

I tried to use the 1500 and 2000 during practice today( dry) and the ball surface didn't seem to last long( it kept losing 1 board every 7-8 shots on freshly oiled synthetic lanes). I suspect it's because I did it by hand and did not spend enough time on it. I'll spend more time to do it wet at home and see what happens.