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Brickguy221

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Gritless Ball Polishes
« on: August 22, 2011, 01:50:32 AM »
I know this subject has come up in the past, but I can't find it so I will ask here....

 

Which bowling ball polishes are gritless?
 

Curently I have on hand, Valentino's Snake Oil, 3M Finesse-It II, Power House Factory Finish, Brunswick High Gloss factory Finish, and Lane Masters Factory Finish.

 

I am thinking the Snake Oil and Lane Masters polishes contain no grit, but I could be wrong here.... Are there any others?


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Re: Gritless Ball Polishes
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2011, 10:11:58 AM »
I haven't used Snake Oil, but the Lane Masters Factory Finish has an abrasive in it. I remember reading somewhere that it was equal to about 3500, but I might be thinking of something else.
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Re: Gritless Ball Polishes
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 10:21:14 AM »
Correct, Snake Oil is gritless, along with U.F.O. which is our extender polish.

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Re: Gritless Ball Polishes
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 11:40:45 AM »
Milo,
 
As far I knew and have used, LaneMasters Factory Finish did not have any grit in it. LaneMasters Extended length polish does have grit in it.
 
Strom's Xtra Shine can theoretically finish a ball as fine as 3500 grit.
 
milorafferty wrote on 8/22/2011 10:11 AM:I haven't used Snake Oil, but the Lane Masters Factory Finish has an abrasive in it. I remember reading somewhere that it was equal to about 3500, but I might be thinking of something else.


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Re: Gritless Ball Polishes
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 11:43:46 AM »
Brickguy,
 
You know, from my post over on BowingBallExchange, that, as far as I know, only Brunswick High Gloss polish, of those you had listed, has grit in it. If I learn differently, as I did with Ebonite's Factory Finish (It used to have grit in it. I now believe it does not.), I will change my opinion.


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Re: Gritless Ball Polishes
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 11:59:02 AM »
You are probably right on that. I was thinking it was the other way around with the Extended length being the one without the grit.
 
I've been using the Ebonite/Power House Factory Finish and Reaction Plus more lately, so I have them mixed up. 
charlest wrote on 8/22/2011 11:40 AM:
Milo,
 
As far I knew and have used, LaneMasters Factory Finish did not have any grit in it. LaneMasters Extended length polish does have grit in it.
 
Strom's Xtra Shine can theoretically finish a ball as fine as 3500 grit.
 
milorafferty wrote on 8/22/2011 10:11 AM:I haven't used Snake Oil, but the Lane Masters Factory Finish has an abrasive in it. I remember reading somewhere that it was equal to about 3500, but I might be thinking of something else.


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Re: Gritless Ball Polishes
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2011, 01:18:42 PM »

I've found I like Ebo Factory Finish a lot. It's like Lanemasters but easier to apply. More creamy like Motiv Gel and less watery than some others.
 
Oh, good! Someone knows what Reaction Plus is. For years I've wondered just what kind of polish it is. "'Splain" please.
 
milorafferty wrote on 8/22/2011 11:59 AM:
I've been using the Ebonite/Power House Factory Finish and Reaction Plus more lately, so I have them mixed up. 



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Re: Gritless Ball Polishes
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2011, 01:26:07 PM »
It doesn't really act like a polish. It gives your ball a reaction down lane like nothing else I have used. It will "shine up" the ball like a polish, but it gives is a more consistent read of the lane as opposed to that longer skid then violent backend reaction you get from most polishes. You have to be sure to give it a really good shaking before use as it separates almost like oil and water. If it's a transparent light green liquid, then it isn't mixed enough. It should be a opaque light green color, then it's ready to use. Great product in my opinion.
 
charlest wrote on 8/22/2011 1:18 PM:

I've found I like Ebo Factory Finish a lot. It's like Lanemasters but easier to apply. More creamy like Motiv Gel and less watery than some others.
 
Oh, good! Someone knows what Reaction Plus is. For years I've wondered just what kind of polish it is. "'Splain" please.
 
milorafferty wrote on 8/22/2011 11:59 AM:
I've been using the Ebonite/Power House Factory Finish and Reaction Plus more lately, so I have them mixed up. 



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Re: Gritless Ball Polishes
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2011, 02:00:37 PM »
Thanks, Milo!

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Re: Gritless Ball Polishes
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2011, 08:04:23 PM »
  ...thanks Charlest.
 



charlest wrote on 8/22/2011 11:43 AM:
Brickguy,

 

You know, from my post over on BowingBallExchange, that, as far as I know, only Brunswick High Gloss polish, of those you had listed, has grit in it. If I learn differently, as I did with Ebonite's Factory Finish (It used to have grit in it. I now believe it does not.), I will change my opinion.


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Re: Gritless Ball Polishes
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2011, 08:23:59 PM »
At one time a few years ago I sanded my Storm Triple XXX, Track Havoc,   and Ebonite V2 Pearl  to 400 grit and polished with 3M Finesse-It II. Then as the polish would begin to wear a bit, I would put thm on the spinner and hit them with the Reaction Plus and that would give them a nice new looking shine and help them maintain their performance without having to sand/repolish again. I would do this every time the balls would start to dull. The Reaction Plus did what Milo described plus it also seemed to clean the balls cover. With the shine it gave my balls, you would think they were too shiney and would overshoot the break point, but just the opposite happened in that it made the balls move better at the break point.


 



milorafferty wrote on 8/22/2011 1:26 PM:
It doesn't really act like a polish. It gives your ball a reaction down lane like nothing else I have used. It will "shine up" the ball like a polish, but it gives is a more consistent read of the lane as opposed to that longer skid then violent backend reaction you get from most polishes. You have to be sure to give it a really good shaking before use as it separates almost like oil and water. If it's a transparent light green liquid, then it isn't mixed enough. It should be a opaque light green color, then it's ready to use. Great product in my opinion.
 



charlest wrote on 8/22/2011 1:18 PM:

I've found I like Ebo Factory Finish a lot. It's like Lanemasters but easier to apply. More creamy like Motiv Gel and less watery than some others.

 

Oh, good! Someone knows what Reaction Plus is. For years I've wondered just what kind of polish it is. "'Splain" please.

 



milorafferty wrote on 8/22/2011 11:59 AM:
I've been using the Ebonite/Power House Factory Finish and Reaction Plus more lately, so I have them mixed up. 






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Edited by milorafferty on 8/22/2011 at 1:26 PM


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Re: Gritless Ball Polishes
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2011, 08:42:54 PM »
Charlest, I have been using the Ebonite Factory Finish some myself recently, but I have to be careful as it doesn't take much to put a shine on a ball and if the ball is too shiney, with my not much hand, it will overshoot the break point. I had some problems with my Ebonite Game On when I first got it. Ball came waaaayyy too highly polished for me. I took off the polish with a 4000 grit pad and then sanded first to 2000 grit and polished with the Ebonite polish and that didn't do well so I then sanded to 1000 grit and polish and finaly I arrived at 500 grit abrlon and Ebonite polish as my best fit. Got ball a wee bit too shiney ehre also with the Ebonite polish, so I then hit it with a 4000 grit pad just barely touching the ball with it on 2 sides for about 3-4 seconds which still left a light shine and that did it for me.

 

I did similar with my new Track 607A SE as it came waaaayyy too shiney also, but I quit at 1000 grit for the moment and polished really hard with Snake Oil today. Although the ball did well on some used but still playable lanes today I still wanted the ball a wee bit more shiner than I was able to get it with the Snake Oil, but I am going to try a bit more. The ball appears that 1000 grit and polish may be what I need on this ball so I just want the underlying grit to remain at 1000, thus my question today for gritless polishes. 



charlest wrote on 8/22/2011 1:18 PM:

I've found I like Ebo Factory Finish a lot. It's like Lanemasters but easier to apply. More creamy like Motiv Gel and less watery than some others.

 

Oh, good! Someone knows what Reaction Plus is. For years I've wondered just what kind of polish it is. "'Splain" please.

 



milorafferty wrote on 8/22/2011 11:59 AM:
I've been using the Ebonite/Power House Factory Finish and Reaction Plus more lately, so I have them mixed up. 






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Re: Gritless Ball Polishes
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2011, 11:37:24 PM »
If Snake Oil leaves my ball with not enough shine or it does not get the length I feel I need, a 2nd does of SO, with the same everything: amount, pressure, time and # of sides, provides an extra gloss and does provide more length.  That said, if 1000 grit + SO does not provide the length you feel you need, ordinarily I would sand it to P1500 grit and then apply the Snake Oil. Extra shine over the 1000, the lower grit, might tend to make it more susceptible to carrydown. I say, "might"
 
Remember that every polish changes the surface texture to some physical degree, even "non-abrasive" polishes. Polish is not a coating over the substratum, it is not like paint or varnish or polyurethane. It doesn't lie over the sanded surface.
 


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