Post by: Porkchop on January 02, 2004, 01:55:32 AM
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You wanna bet me how much? Let's play!
Post by: mrtappedalot on January 02, 2004, 05:39:12 PM
http://www.ballreviews.com/Forum/Replies.asp?TopicID=32566&ForumID=17&CategoryID=5
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 02, 2004, 06:26:40 PM
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15 years and still going strong! 15 years old that is!
DA DA DAAAAAA!! UP UP AND AWAY! TO THE BAT CAVE ROBIN!
Post by: Porkchop on January 02, 2004, 06:36:41 PM
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You wanna bet me how much? Let's play!
Post by: daiiawn on January 02, 2004, 06:38:11 PM
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What IS sandbagging any ways?
Sandbagging is deliberatly bowling lower scores than you are capable of, often done to increase handicap before a handicap tournament etc.
That is my understanding of it, however im all the way over in england, so i dont know if we have the same use for that term as you guys (i would guess we do though)
Post by: WiscBowler on January 02, 2004, 06:50:00 PM
Post by: Glen Hershberger on January 02, 2004, 06:59:57 PM
http://www.bowlingthismonth.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=11
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Post by: A_P_K on January 02, 2004, 07:01:33 PM
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"How far must one go, before he throw his whole entire life right out the window"?
Pin_Krusher IS a serious threat to modern day bowling wood as we know it today.
Post by: MI 2 AZ on January 02, 2004, 10:41:54 PM
List of Approved and Not Approved Ball Cleaners:
http://www.bowl.com/bowl/BowlDotCom/common/static.html?page=bowl_speccert_ballcleaner
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I just want 2C was'zzub.
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Post by: bigfoot on January 03, 2004, 11:09:57 AM
Post by: charlest on January 03, 2004, 11:31:51 AM
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I had a bottle of UltraClean once. It did a great job, but I threw it out when I realized it had acetone in it and wasn't approved.
Ok, let's be realistic here.
The test in banning a cleaner involves soaking a rag in the cleaner and leaving it on a ball's surface for 30 minutes. If after that, the ball's surface is softened, then the cleaner is banned.
Practically speaking, from my college chemistry, acetone dissolves substances in the plastics family: Polyester balls (we call them "plastic), urethane and resin balls are all part of the plastics family. When a liquid dissolves a solid, baiscally a set amount of the liquid is "used up" in dissolving a set amount of the solid. So a little acetone will not dissolve a bowling ball.
As someone who is not on the fence regarding rules, I will follow them, although I will often disagree with them. Rules such as not allowing acetone or denatured alcohol are there, because there is no control by the ABC as to how much of that liquid is used on a bowling ball. A bowler can use any amount from the tiniest drop to a quart. The ABC cannot control that amount so it bans it altogether.
HOWEVER, you will notice that although denatured alcohol is banned, none of Storm's ball cleaning products are banned and many of them do contain denatured alcohol, as indicated on their label. How odd?
In any case, since no product will remove marks like disintegrating ball return rubber belts from bowling balls, nor will any of them remove spots of glue from gluing inserts, I see no harm in the judicious, that is, VERY cautious use of acetone and products containing acetone, when it is necessary. You must be able to use some product other than having to sand those dirt marks off, which is the only other way I know to remove things like rubber and glue.
That said, I do not want the surface of my balls to be affected by the use of acetone and such products. I do not under any circustances and would not recommend the use of such cleaners on a regular basis, but have no qualms in using them nor in recommend them, WHEN NEEDS BE.
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"Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it."
Post by: Glen Hershberger on January 03, 2004, 10:05:04 PM
I have used acetone for i don't even know how many years and have seen on adverse affects on my bowling balls.
I have bowled in 14 or 15 ABC's and have never had a problem with ball hardness.
What i do is put the acetone on a towel and then wipe the ball off ( the stuff disappears about as fast as you wipe the ball off).
I do this after every league session and every tournament that i bowl in and believe me i bowl alot.
I think acetone works great!!
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There are no bad balls, Just bad bowlers.
lanemaster299@webtv.net
www.mba300.com (Local monthly tournaments)
www.bowlingthismonth.com
www.morich.net (The Best Balls out there)
ABC Stats--http://www.bowl.com/templates/BowlDotCom/common/members/index.html?member=00610-0000247&name=Glen+E+Hershberger+II+&r1=09182003&r2=09192003&r3=09222003
Post by: htotheizzo3561 on January 03, 2004, 10:14:49 PM
Post by: charlest on January 04, 2004, 09:01:32 AM
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without morals, you could use any cleaner you wanted to.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
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I use acetone to clean my grips and tape, it give me that new feel
Don't use it to clean your grips because it will dissolve them MUCH faster than it affects any bowling ball. It will make them larger with each use. Use alcohol to clean inserts.
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Post by: MI 2 AZ on January 04, 2004, 12:32:19 PM
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I use acetone to clean my grips and tape, it give me that new feel
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Don't use it to clean your grips because it will dissolve them MUCH faster than it affects any bowling ball. It will make them larger with each use. Use alcohol to clean inserts.
Maybe that is why it feels like new, the outer layer is being dissolved?
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I just want 2C was'zzub.
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I am the SGT Schultz of bowling.
"I know nothing!"
Post by: charlest on January 04, 2004, 01:11:25 PM
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I use acetone to clean my grips and tape, it give me that new feel
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Don't use it to clean your grips because it will dissolve them MUCH faster than it affects any bowling ball. It will make them larger with each use. Use alcohol to clean inserts.
Maybe that is why it feels like new, the outer layer is being dissolved?
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I just want 2C was'zzub.
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I am the SGT Schultz of bowling.
"I know nothing!"
As per usual, it depends on how much and how often you use it.
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"Just because you can do something does not mean you should do it."