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Brickguy221

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Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« on: April 20, 2010, 01:27:23 PM »
I've been using Valentino's Remedy RX with great success ever since the day it was available. I got down to one 8 oz bottle 3 weeks ago. When I went bowling that Tuesday, I took that last full bottle with me. I kept my towel damp with it during league play as I always do. Then after league, I cleaned my balls with it like I always do before putting them in my bag to go home. Then I went home but accidently left the Remedy on the table where we sit. I didn't miss it until Thursday when I went to the lanes for our weekly Senior Thursday Pot Bowling get-together. Checked at the front desk, but they said no one turned it in, so I was without ball cleaner. Checked the pro shop and they wanted $13.95 for a 6 oz bottle of Hook-It which is all they had and I wasn't going to pay that kind of money for 6 oz of ball cleaner.

When I went home, I decided to mix some Simple Green and Alcohol that many talk about until I could order more Remedy, so I mixed 50% Simple Green and 50% Isopropyl 91% Alcohol. I used it the same way I used the Remedy. So far it appears it does ok. Sure cleans the dirt off but don't know if it draws the oil out as good as Remedy though.

To sum up the reason why I wrote this long Topic is that when using Remedy or any other ball cleaner or this Simple Green-Alcohol mix and keep my towel damp during bowling, it sure makes my microfiber towels really-really dirty. With the purchased ball cleaners, all of this dirt stain never comes out of the towels and they still look somewhat dirty/stained after cleaning them. With the Simple Green-Alcohol mix, the towels come almost completely clean with very little if any trace of stain on them.

Has anyone else experienced when cleaning the towels, that they come cleaner if using Simple Green-Alcohol mix than they do when using purchased ball cleaners?
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Re: Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2010, 01:01:32 AM »
i meant acetone
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Re: Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2010, 09:45:14 AM »
Acetone doesn't kill ball reaction, but it is illegal to use by USBC rules.  --  JohnP
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Re: Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2010, 11:07:35 AM »
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To eliminate any film, take 30 seconds to wipe the ball with a damp paper towel when you finish.  I do this as the final step no matter what cleaner I use.  --  JohnP


Very true. I have a spray bottle with just water which I use no matter what cleaner I clean the ball with. It leaves a very tacky feel that ball cleaner alone doesn't seem to give.
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Re: Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2010, 11:25:52 AM »
I used to use 50% diluted Simple Green with water, and that would take dirt off but not belt marks. I have since been using Neo-Tac's Hook-It, and that cleaner is amazing. Very strong stuff. Just dissolves belt marks with little effort. For deep cleaning, spray a little on a gray scotchbrite pad and clean it with that. Balls come out looking brand new. If you need a good cleaner, check it out. I think mine was $11 for 6 oz. I'm sure you could get it cheaper online somewhere. Even still, it lasts a long time.
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Re: Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2010, 07:23:10 PM »
Double post.



Edited on 5/3/2010 7:35 PM
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Re: Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2010, 07:34:28 PM »
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Look up the MSDS sheet for KEGEL'S Revive ball cleaner.

CHEMICAL NAME...............CONCENTRATION %
water........................ 82-87
2-butoxyethanol...............4-6
isopropanol...................2-4
surfacant blend..............1-3

Bet it contains the same ingredients as you will find in most household/automotive cleaner/degreasers.

Soap
Alcohol
Water
And the 2-butox stuff.



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Re: Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2010, 08:39:35 PM »
I found this about 2-butoxyethanol:

"The main use of 2-butoxyethanol is as a solvent in paints and surface coatings, followed by cleaning products and inks. It provides cleaning power and the characteristic odor of Windex and other glass cleaners. Other products which contain 2-butoxyethanol include acrylic resin formulations, asphalt release agents, firefighting foam, leather protectors, oil spill dispersants, bowling pin and lane degreaser, and photographic strip solutions. 2-Butoxyethanol is a primary ingredient of various whiteboard cleaners, liquid soaps, cosmetics, dry cleaning solutions, lacquers, varnishes, herbicides, and latex paints. It also seems to be excellent at killing most insects and arachnids.

It is the main ingredient of many home, commercial, and industrial cleaning solutions such as Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner which has been used to clean up oil spills. The primary manufacturers are Eastman Chemical, Dow Chemical and Equistar in the United States."

So it seems that the Kegel Revive is dilute Simple Green with isopropyl alcohol.
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Re: Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2010, 10:28:21 PM »
dammn good find charlest!!!

iv heard of hankelite???.. being used as ball cleaner....(home made concoction)
was used in the printing business to clean ink off the presses. think it was a "harsh chemical" and its not made any more, something less harsh was formulated..
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Re: Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2010, 10:59:40 PM »
ive been using distilled water with simple green.....

works great

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Re: Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2010, 02:58:26 PM »
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I found this about 2-butoxyethanol:

"The main use of 2-butoxyethanol is as a solvent in paints and surface coatings, followed by cleaning products and inks. It provides cleaning power and the characteristic odor of Windex and other glass cleaners. Other products which contain 2-butoxyethanol include acrylic resin formulations, asphalt release agents, firefighting foam, leather protectors, oil spill dispersants, bowling pin and lane degreaser, and photographic strip solutions. 2-Butoxyethanol is a primary ingredient of various whiteboard cleaners, liquid soaps, cosmetics, dry cleaning solutions, lacquers, varnishes, herbicides, and latex paints. It also seems to be excellent at killing most insects and arachnids.

It is the main ingredient of many home, commercial, and industrial cleaning solutions such as Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner which has been used to clean up oil spills. The primary manufacturers are Eastman Chemical, Dow Chemical and Equistar in the United States."

So it seems that the Kegel Revive is dilute Simple Green with isopropyl alcohol.
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Last time I brought this up you jumped on me pretty hard. We had this discussion awhile back when I posted about comparing expensive ball cleaner to cheaper degreasers.
I tried to tell you that they were the same.





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Edited on 5/4/2010 3:10 PM
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Skizriz

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Re: Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2010, 03:06:39 PM »
I like a little Alcohol mixed in with my Simple Green and water just because it makes it dry that much faster. Better for wiping your ball between shots with.


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Re: Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2010, 05:38:51 PM »
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I used to use 50% diluted Simple Green with water, and that would take dirt off but not belt marks. I have since been using Neo-Tac's Hook-It, and that cleaner is amazing. Very strong stuff. Just dissolves belt marks with little effort.


+1 to Kingpin. If you want to get serious about cleaning, Neo-Tac's Hook-It is far superior to SG mixtures.
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Re: Another Ball Cleaner Topic
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2010, 06:46:55 PM »
you guys could also try my cleaner PJ's Tacky Snap . Its approved by the usbc and i sell it in 4oz 8oz 32oz and 1 gal size bottle's I have review's on the other site bbe if interested semd me a pm
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