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Ric Clint

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Black Magic vs. Ebonite's EXTENDER polish?
« on: August 08, 2003, 07:10:55 AM »
What's the difference between these two? As far as length and bigger backend movement?

I know Black Magic doesn't have any abrasives and doesn't change the grit, but does Extender polish have any abbrasives or change the grit?

I need the ONE polish that doesn't kill the backend reaction!!!

I've heard that Finesse-it II kills the backend and that heavy applications of Black Magic will kill the backend and I don't want that.

I want a polish that will give length and still have a big backend!!!

So it seems that Finesse-it II and Black Maigc are NOT what I'm looking for???

I mainly use Particle balls!

So is Ebonite's EXTENDER Polish what I'm looking for?

Rememebr: I want a polish that will give length and still have a big backend!!!



Thanks!





Edited on 8/10/2003 3:55 AM
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Ric Clint

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Re: Black Magic vs. Ebonite's EXTENDER polish?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2003, 03:14:56 AM »
And also, is Ebonite's EXTENDER polish okay to be used on Particle coverstocks as well as reactive coverstocks?


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Re: Black Magic vs. Ebonite's EXTENDER polish?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2003, 07:11:59 AM »
Ric, instead of using polish to change the surface of a particle ball, why not just switch to a reactive ball that will give you the reaction you are looking for. Every time I have polished a particle ball, it killed the back end too. That is why I have a dull particle ball for oil and reactive for everything else.

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Re: Black Magic vs. Ebonite's EXTENDER polish?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2003, 10:25:59 AM »
I do not use this product, so I am not sure who makes it. About a year ago I had a pro shop operator use something called Kwik Cut--Quick Cut something like that. It did not change the reaction of the ball, it only gave it about 4-6 more feet and a monster backend.

As far as Finesse It II goes, I have used it for years. Infact, when the Pirahna were released there was a sheet of paper that said "Buff with Finesse It". Finesse It has 1500 grit to it. In my 10 years or so of using Finesse It what I have found is more length and a sharp reaction off of the dry. It will not hook in oil.  
One thing I wanted to add is that any polish, if you keep applying it will put a high gloss on the ball.
What you may want to look into instead of a polish, is more of a compound finish. If you currently are throwing a dull particle and want some extra length out of it, simply put a 1200-1500 compound finish on it. Storms are the ones I use. I have also used C-300's, and both of them worked well.
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Re: Black Magic vs. Ebonite's EXTENDER polish?
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2003, 10:29:26 AM »
quote:
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I do not use this product, so I am not sure who makes it. About a year ago I had a pro shop operator use something called Kwik Cut--Quick Cut something like that. It did not change the reaction of the ball, it only gave it about 4-6 more feet and a monster backend.


Quick Kut and Polish is made by Ultimate Bowling. It is or was made, I was told, to remove sanding lines and lines from ROuters when plug materials are removed.

Here's a quote from them:
"Quik Kut & Polish is an easy to use one-step product equal to 500 grit sandpaper. Quik Cut will remove sanding lines from 220 grit on resin balls and take them to a 500 grit surface and polish at the same time. A great time saver. Quik Cut can be used on ALL new coverstocks to enhance performance."

Here's a catalog entry from Bowlers' Paradise:
http://www.bowlersparadise.com/shop/cp/ultimate-bowling/
It's at the bootm of the page.
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Re: Black Magic vs. Ebonite's EXTENDER polish?
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2003, 10:38:58 AM »
I have used both Ultimate Black Magic and Black Magic Plus.  From my experience I used HEAVY applications of the Plus and it NEVER killed the backend.  I applied the polish to my TKO Contender because the Plus polish claims to add about three foot in length to the ball.  I'd have to say that the backend generated from what I saw as additional length was pretty tremendous, and it never died even with repeated coats.  I mean this ball with this polish would make an almost skid snap type aggressive turn on heavier oil patterns.

The fact alone that it doesn't change the grit surface of the ball should make it all the more reason to pick it up.  Personally I don't like the regular Black Magic as much as the Plus version, but they both work very well.  The Plus version also has a cleaning agent added to it which works decently also.

I have the Extender polish also, but never used it because if I read the directions and intentions correctly, I believe it kills some backend reaction off.

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