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yeehayashi

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Valentino's Snake Oil compared to Storm Step 2
« on: March 25, 2011, 01:57:04 AM »
Just looking for some feedback as to whether or not these two polishes are comparable if you adjust the coverstock to Storm's recommendation for a 1500 polished finish.


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Re: Valentino's Snake Oil compared to Storm Step 2
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2011, 11:22:03 AM »
I think they are very comparable. I use Snake oil and a friend of mine uses Step 2 and it is hard to see a difference in the results.


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Re: Valentino's Snake Oil compared to Storm Step 2
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2011, 12:31:41 PM »

 Isn't Snake Oil grit free and Step 2 contains Grit???



MC wrote on 3/25/2011 11:22 AM:
I think they are very comparable. I use Snake oil and a friend of mine uses Step 2 and it is hard to see a difference in the results.


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Re: Valentino's Snake Oil compared to Storm Step 2
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2011, 12:41:03 PM »

 That was what I understood as well. Maybe charlest will check in here, he will know for sure.



Brickguy221 wrote on 3/25/2011 12:31 PM:

 Isn't Snake Oil grit free and Step 2 contains Grit???






MC wrote on 3/25/2011 11:22 AM:

I think they are very comparable. I use Snake oil and a friend of mine uses Step 2 and it is hard to see a difference in the results.


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Re: Valentino's Snake Oil compared to Storm Step 2
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2011, 12:43:27 PM »

That's my understanding too.  The grit in Step 2 brings the underlying surface up to 1500 while polishing it at the same time.  With Snake Oil, you prep the underlying surface first to whatever grit you want, and then polish with Snake Oil which won't change the surface grit. 


 



Brickguy221 wrote on 3/25/2011 12:31 PM:

 Isn't Snake Oil grit free and Step 2 contains Grit???****************************************


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Re: Valentino's Snake Oil compared to Storm Step 2
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2011, 01:52:48 PM »
Snake Oil is grit free and doesn't change the underlying grit. 


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Re: Valentino's Snake Oil compared to Storm Step 2
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2011, 05:56:38 PM »
As far as I know, Snake Oil, in my personal experience, will not change the underlying grit. So to get a (Storm) ball to 1500 grit with polish, you sand a ball to 1500 grit and apply Snake oil.
 
Step1 (or 2 or 3) is consider a rubbing compound, like Rough Buff, or a light polishing compound with a rather severe amount of grit on it. So to get a (Storm or any other) ball to 1500 grit, you would sand it to 220 - 600 grit (depends on how much compound and how hard you press for how long) and then apply a dose of Step 1 or 2 (or Rough Buff) to it in order to get it close to 1500 grit + polish.
 
Snake oil is more akin to Ebonite's Powerhouse Factory Finish polish or Lanemasters Factory Finish High Gloss polish in that they do not have a severe "grit" in them .


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Re: Valentino's Snake Oil compared to Storm Step 2
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2011, 01:20:05 PM »
I was going to start a new thread, but I figured I'd piggy back off of this one since it has good info in it and my question is rather similar. Now that we know the difference, does anyone have a preference to finishes? I was thinking of trying the Snake Oil (since its on sale today) and going with either 1000 or 2000 grit abralon with Snake Oil on top. Has anyone seen any remarkable difference between doing that compared to going with straight abralon to Step 2? When I do 500 grit to Step 2 on the spinner, I find that the surface is still a bit rough and I have to add some Reacta Shine on top of that to get that oob shine on the ball.


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Re: Valentino's Snake Oil compared to Storm Step 2
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2011, 08:14:50 AM »
GOD NO!! THESE ARENT EVEN CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER!!
 
snake oil is a grit less polish... step 2 is a rubbing compound(hence the word "rubbing" meaning abrasive!)
 step 2 has abrasives that CHANGE THE GRIT ON THE BALL, snake oil does not...
 
tho you can put a shine on the ball using step 2 with water and a spinner, but it WILL change the grit surface of the ball!
 
ive used (alot) step 2 on a wet/damp towel by hand, wipe clean then put some polish(snake oil/diamond gloss/proacta shine) on the ball with GREAT results when i just want to "fresh'n up" a cover... 


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