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Composite Coverstocks
« on: October 27, 2015, 09:12:35 PM »
I've been reading on how some of the new Brunswick / DV8 balls now have composite coverstocks. I'm curious if this is new technology for those companies and for the bowling industry as a whole. What are the advantages of this type of coverstock versus ''regular'' coverstocks?  Thanks in advance for any input on this subject.

 

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Re: Composite Coverstocks
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2015, 12:34:06 AM »
Composite coverstock technology is a new process by which Brunswick uses additives to create texture throughout the coverstock.  The advantage this provides is as the coverstock "laneshines" or its mechanical surface is smoothed out, the added composite friction characteristics remain.  The usual drop off in performance you see after 20 to 30 games with a newer bowling ball are not seen using this technology.  You also don't destroy the technology when changing the surface or scuffing it like you would with a particle.  In this case, you merely expose another layer of the material and the ball maintains its reaction. This technology also tends to not oil soak as quickly while still absorbing plenty of oil.  I have balls with 50 games on them that have not bled oil or plasticizer in a rejuvenatior.  So this technology is more reliable, durable, and create more hook with less added surface.
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Re: Composite Coverstocks
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2015, 01:49:56 AM »
And this is different from their CFT claim from a few years ago how?
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Re: Composite Coverstocks
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2015, 08:00:22 AM »
CFT was changing the additives in the coverstock to alter the reaction shape on the lanes. The new ESC or Composite coverstocks changes the way that the molecules are formed during the pouring of the coverstock at the factory. The new balls still utilize Chemical Friction at a molecular level in the coverstock. The way the seminar for the DV8 and Radical releases explained it was to imagine that there are 3 types of molecules used which will combine into chains and those chains might look like spaghetti if you have an electron microscope. They can control how the chains are formed by the ratio of the 3 molecules used. Like Chris said, the new coverstocks will last longer in between oil extractions and will not need surface adjustments as often. Also, this new composite coverstock technology has been in testing for over a year. I don't think that any other company is using this type of technology for coverstocks.
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Re: Composite Coverstocks
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2015, 10:00:58 AM »
Sounds like just more marketing hype.
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Re: Composite Coverstocks
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2015, 10:05:09 AM »
Composite coverstock technology is a new process by which Brunswick uses additives to create texture throughout the coverstock.  The advantage this provides is as the coverstock "laneshines" or its mechanical surface is smoothed out, the added composite friction characteristics remain.  The usual drop off in performance you see after 20 to 30 games with a newer bowling ball are not seen using this technology.  You also don't destroy the technology when changing the surface or scuffing it like you would with a particle.  In this case, you merely expose another layer of the material and the ball maintains its reaction. This technology also tends to not oil soak as quickly while still absorbing plenty of oil.  I have balls with 50 games on them that have not bled oil or plasticizer in a rejuvenatior.  So this technology is more reliable, durable, and create more hook with less added surface.

Wow, 50 games? Really?

I use, for the most part, a single brand. I won't even bother to mention it and I'm not on staff. BUT, I've never gotten oil out of the covers of these balls and I have HUNDREDS of games with them. Of course, I clean them after each use and maintain the surface as needed.

From your description, it sounds like Big B finally took a step into the present, not the future. Good job Big B, it's about time.
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Re: Composite Coverstocks
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2015, 10:25:37 AM »
This is different from CFT because of the way the two parts come together. There are 2 types of polyols we use to react with the isocyanate, one being a short chain polyol and the other being a long chain polyol. These bonds form what we know as the coverstock of the bowling ball. If we used only soft chain, then you'd have something as soft as a seat cushion. How we sequence the polyols is proprietary and is what we study when it comes to hardness, oil absorption, friction on the lane, durability and longevity.

You're going to see a lot more of it going forward, we have been very pleased with the response we have received from balls that have the coverstock technology in them.
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Re: Composite Coverstocks
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2015, 12:22:55 PM »
Sounds like just more marketing hype.

But what if it's not?
Given the state of this industry, any true increment in technology will ALWAYS sound like hype until it's proven. Only time will prove it to be an advance or just hype.
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Re: Composite Coverstocks
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2015, 12:35:43 PM »
Sounds like just more marketing hype.

But what if it's not?
Given the state of this industry, any true increment in technology will ALWAYS sound like hype until it's proven. Only time will prove it to be an advance or just hype.

True, but this is the same song and dance from the C Systems ball and the Nexus line. Change the wording around some and it's nothing different.


Marketing. Just like every other company. Not saying it good or bad just saying it's probably nothing new other than the verbiage used to try to sell them.


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Re: Composite Coverstocks
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2015, 02:00:50 PM »
Sounds like just more marketing hype.

But what if it's not?
Given the state of this industry, any true increment in technology will ALWAYS sound like hype until it's proven. Only time will prove it to be an advance or just hype.

True, but this is the same song and dance from the C Systems ball and the Nexus line. Change the wording around some and it's nothing different.


Marketing. Just like every other company. Not saying it good or bad just saying it's probably nothing new other than the verbiage used to try to sell them.


Don't forget Brunswick did this before with their Particles 2.0 (Riot Zone and other balls). Particle balls were known were absorbing incredible amounts of oil and dying soon (even though back then very, very few people cleaned their balls at all and even fewer de-oiled them). I cleaned my RZ but it never died. I had over 1000 games on it before I sold it. And I wish I never did. And it was a medium-light  to medium oil ball, not an oiler in the least.

The fact that everyone else's particle balls died quickly is probably what led Brunswick to drop their 2.0 particle covers.

I know Motiv is now developing a reputation for their balls hardly absorbing oil at all; yet they do not seem to advertising ("hyping") that aspect of their coverstocks.
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Re: Composite Coverstocks
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2015, 02:46:36 PM »

I know Motiv is now developing a reputation for their balls hardly absorbing oil at all; yet they do not seem to advertising ("hyping") that aspect of their coverstocks.

For 2+ years now, my current arsenal is all Motiv plus a Storm Mix and I will vouch for Motiv balls hardly absorbing any oil. My next ball purchase will be a Brunswick though for reasons other than their new covers, unless I am able to move up in weight of which I don't see happening soon, if at all ever..
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