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Deges

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Ball spinner owners.
« on: January 06, 2004, 10:32:17 PM »
I'm looking a getting a Vertex or Donkee ball spinner. My question is what is the real difference in the RPM's and HP. Would a 1/3 HP at 435 RPM'S be good enough, for resurfacing and putting polish on. would a higher HP and more RPM's be better? Or is it just personal preference.


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Ernie McCracken

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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2004, 01:41:20 PM »
My spinner has a 1/3 HP Dayton motor that puts out 1725 RPM's.  I've had it now for about 5 years and still love it for all my polishing and resurfacing needs.  I feel that buying this spinner was one of the best bowling related purchases I've ever made, besides any Track ball!
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Deges

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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2004, 09:19:51 PM »
Everone,

Thanks for the input. I ended up calling Vertex and bought the 1/2Hp spinner. Said i should hve it next week.
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mumzie

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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2004, 12:30:00 AM »
Does innovative sell a foot pedal?
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2004, 08:02:10 AM »
Deges,  Even though ypu've already made the decison to get the Vertex spinner,  I'm going to second Bob's comments about the Donkee and Brandon.  My Donkee is a solid as it can be, and I've had it 2 years with no problems.  Let's be clear here, all three spinners are good products, and just because Brandon doens't like his Donkee does not make it a bad spinner.

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Sir Bowl-A-Lot

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2004, 08:46:52 AM »
My Donkee was given to me as a X-Mas present a year ago.  It serves its purpose.  However, if I had to buy another I would certainly buy the 2-speed Innovative spinner.  I just think Innovative makes better equipment.
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2004, 11:01:35 AM »
I own a Donkee 2 speed, can't hardly keep in on the table. Wish I had received a different brand.

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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2004, 11:38:27 AM »
If you want the sink to put your spinner in, check at Lowes or Home Depot before buying through the internet.  Be sure you know the dimensions needed and the internet price available.  --  JohnP
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Steven

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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2004, 03:48:35 PM »
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I slam Donkee for a reason. And that's because nobody should have to put up with any shaking at all.


Brandon: You seem like a nice kid, but your views on the Donkee are based on emotion and ignorance.

The fact is that the Donkee, when placed on the right surface and used with the proper technique, is an effective spinner. I have the 1/2 HP model (with two speeds), and I've never had a problem with any maintenance task. I do everything from routine polishing to full refinishing, and I'm very pleased with the performance of the unit.

What you don't mention is that you can't fairly compare the Vertex to the Donkee. The Donkee runs at 2-speeds operating at 580 RPMs and 850 RPMs, respectively. Conversely, the Vertex is a 1-speed unit that operates at 435 RPMs. For my cleaning/polishing purposes, I need the higher speed of the Donkee to generate the friction and heat necessary to get the job done right. I don't care if there is a little bit of vibration -- it's manageable and a small price to pay to get higher speeds.

I'm not knocking any other spinner, but the Donkee provides some nice features and potential buyers should be aware of them.
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RackTheRipper

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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2004, 03:16:04 PM »
I posted this a while back on this topic. Here's a cut and paste...

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I have tried innovative, jayhawk, vertex, and donkee.

A cheap spinner is better than no spinner at all, so if money is an issue get the vertex. The next cheapest is the donkee with the two speeds. The innovative is a good spinner but may be overpriced for home use. The jayhawk worked ok too.

As for wobble, none of the spinners wobbled when there was no ball on them, therefore they are all balanced, it is the bowling balls that aren't balanced. No matter which spinner I used, more radical balls wobbled more than balls with milder cores. The vertex was kinda slow, but at least it wasn't able to spin a ball up to a high enough speed to wobble like crazy. Higher speed spinners were better at putting a high gloss shine on balls but all spinners were great at sanding and putting satin shines on balls.

Don't forget, you will need supplies too. 240, 400, 600, 800, 1000, 1500, 2000 sandpaper at about $3 each. Finesse-it and Perfect-it at about $30 and $10 or instead soome of the polishes from the ball companies. Good to have a few grades of scotchbrite too.

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Steven

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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2004, 03:52:46 PM »
Brandon: You still haven't directly addressed a few issues:

1) The Donkee provides a high speed of 850 RPMs. This is about 250-300 RPMs greater than the speeds offered by Vertex and Innovative. The additional RPMs on the Donkee makes a huge positive difference in the friction that can be generated for cleaning and polishing. And frankly, a spinner will be used far more for these activities than anything else.

2) Donkee 'vibration' can be effectively kept under control if the unit is mounted correctly, and the right techniques are used to work with the cover surface. According to your theory, my equipment should be all out of shape because the Donkee bounces all around like an errant pin-pong ball. It's just not true.  

So please, leave Donkee products alone. If you're happy with a Vertex unit that produces no wobble (and no speed ), that's your choice. One of the primary benefits of a spinner (that's not used my most) is to perform high friction cleaning. At 850 RPMs, the Donkee gets the job done. You've been reminded of this over and over, yet you still persist in your witch hunt against the Donkees.

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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2004, 03:58:59 PM »
Is there a place, other than Beach Bowl, that one can purchase a new ball spinner from Innovative?
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