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General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: machine189 on June 24, 2016, 08:44:17 AM
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Just a question But do anyone still use these today and why to add surface? With abralon I went away from them and haven't used on today's coverstocks
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Sure! Have them, use them. They last a good amount of time and they do the job they're supposed to do. Since they're on the rough side, I use them for base coats, to resurface and as an undercoat for a higher grit (3000, 4000, 5000) and for polish,
They have 4 million uses around the house, garage, yard and garden. So I always have some on hand and scattered about.
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;D yeah I have millions of these around the house too, about to put them to use on the equipment. The Mrs.'s cleaning closet is about to be missing a few pads lol.
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I use them all Scotchbrites, Wet/Dry Sandpaper they all work fine and are cheap.
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I use Scotchbrite a lot because to me it seems to keep the same grit unlike the Abralon pads. Or does the Scotchbrite change like the Abralon pads?
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Yes, I still use them. The gold gets the most use, followed by the gray.
They do hold up well, and like charlest, I'm usually using them to get to my base grit.
For those who have spinners, try adding some compound (such as Storm #2, or Brunswick Royal Compound) directly to the Scotch Brite. It's just another way to "fine tune" reaction somewhere between dull and shiny...
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I used a cheap 99 cent store green scotchbrite on a Cyclone and now it goes dead straight.
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Agreed with Charlest. Love using them as a low grit then coming back with a 1000 or 2000 pad. It's money!!!! Plus the everyday possibilites for use that come up lol
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Anyone know in a general area what the grit equivalent would be?
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Anyone know in a general area what the grit equivalent would be?
3M Scotch-Brite Chart
Less Aggressive --------> More Aggressive
7445 7448 6448 7447 6444 7446 7440
Finer Finish --------> Coarser Finish
(The CAMI grit value is directly from 3M. The FEPA value inside the parentheses is the equivalent.)
7445 - White pad, called Light Duty Cleansing - 1200-1500 grit CAMI (Talc) (~2500 grit FEPA)
7448 - Light Grey, called Ultra Fine Hand - 800 grit. CAMI (Silicon Carbide) (~1600 grit FEPA)
6448 - Green, called Light Duty Hand Pad - 600 grit CAMI (Silicon Carbide) (~1200 grit FEPA)
7447 - Maroon pad, called General Purpose Hand - 320 grit CAMI (Aluminum Oxide) (~320 grit FEPA)
6444 - Brown pad, called Extra Duty Hand - 240 grit CAMI
7446 - Dark Grey pad, called Blending Pad 150 grit CAMI
7440 - Tan pad, called Heavy Duty Hand Pad - 60 grit CAMI
Blue (pad/sponge combo) Scotch-Brite is considered to be about 1000 grit CAMI (~2000 grit FEPA).
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thanks for the chart, very helpful stuff!!!!
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I agree that the scotch-brite hold their grit level throughout the continued use of the pad, unlike Abralon. The only negative I see with Scotch-brite is that when you get to the lower grit pads, they leave a considerable amount of sanding lines on the ball. A new low grit Abralon pad seems to leave a bit smoother and more consistent surface, but you will never get the same grit again, even after one use.
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Yes, I still use them. The gold gets the most use, followed by the gray.
They do hold up well, and like charlest, I'm usually using them to get to my base grit.
For those who have spinners, try adding some compound (such as Storm #2, or Brunswick Royal Compound) directly to the Scotch Brite. It's just another way to "fine tune" reaction somewhere between dull and shiny...
I used to have customers that loved their equipment with a green scotchbrite and the original Clean n Dull. Or start with that then fine tune it. I cried a little when they stopped making the original.
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i use them all the time. the grey ones eapecially that are at 1000. i prefer them over abralon or siaar pads and cheaper
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i use them all the time. the grey ones eapecially that are at 1000. i prefer them over abralon or siaar pads and cheaper
The light grey ones are 800 grit CAMI/1600 FEPA, according to 3M.
The main problem for matched ball speed or rev dominant players is that SB pads are not available at grits higher than 1600 grit FEPA. There is a gold colored pad that is supposedly 2000 - 2500 grit FEPA, but it is very hard to find and much more expensive to buy.
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I prefer to use them on my Original Lane Masters stuff, as that was their prep practice back then.
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I still use a white Scotch Brite pad when washing the ball surface off. Still have a bunch of different grits but seldom use them anymore. Same with the trizact pads.
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Just wondering if the white pad is about 2500 grit FEPA, then why would anyone use the expensive gold colored pad (2000-2500 FEPA) which is fairly close to the white pad. Would the difference be worth the additional cost and difficulty to find?
For me probably not, but others?
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Just wondering if the white pad is about 2500 grit FEPA, then why would anyone use the expensive gold colored pad (2000-2500 FEPA) which is fairly close to the white pad. Would the difference be worth the additional cost and difficulty to find?
For me probably not, but others?
Because the abrasive on a white pad is talc or talcum powder, it is so weak, it won't affect the surface of resin balls which are quite hard. Talc is or was used in many bath powders and baby powders. It's that mild; so why would one expect it to affect the surface of a bowling ball? That's the best explanation I can provide.
The gold pad uses aluminum oxide.
See http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=SSSSSuUn_zu8l00x4Y_9oYt1ov70k17zHvu9lxtD7SSSSSS-- (http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId=SSSSSuUn_zu8l00x4Y_9oYt1ov70k17zHvu9lxtD7SSSSSS--)
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Charlest,
Thank you for the explanation. Did not realize the white pad was talc. I missed it on the chart you previously provided. You always have the answer when it comes to sanding pads, compounds, & polishes. Thanks again.
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I like the gold and light gray. Used in my seesaw for taking the lane shine off the ball. With water by hand for refreshing the surface.