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JJM

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500/Royal Compound/Royal Shine
« on: October 11, 2016, 06:00:10 PM »
Hello all. I'd like to know from those that have used this combination a few things:
I'm looking for how others go about this process, I know that the final surface hinges on how much, how long and how hard!

First off, 500 abralon...pressure and how long?
Second, Royal Compound...pressure, how much, how long and how many sides?
Third, Royal Shine... pressure, how much, how long and how many sides?

I have 500 pads and both Royal Compound and Royal Polish, so I really do not need to know the equivalent in abralon pads without these products...

Thank you!

Joe
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Re: 500/Royal Compound/Royal Shine
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2016, 07:40:11 PM »
If you're doing 4 sides I'd start with about 30 seconds each on slower speed with whatever normal hand pressure is to you.

Royal Compound about the size of a quarter on all 4 sides with slightly more pressure slower speed, and use a little water at the end if you get any gritty feel from the abrasives in the compound. 

Royal Shine about nickel sized amount on the 4 sides on higher speed with more water to create extra friction and heat to polish the cover.

There are no exact rules here, because product, spinner speed, hand pressure, and water usage can all have their own effect on the outcome.  Just take some mental notes as you go, then try the ball on the lanes to test reaction and tweak further if needed.  Personally, I try to avoid extreme dull and extreme shiny, so if the ball shines up a tad too much I'll quickly "break that surface" lightly to compliment overall reaction.

Typically each step will "smooth out" some of the previous step and you will usually get good length on the lanes with a nice finish once it finds adequate friction to change direction.  Good luck.
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Re: 500/Royal Compound/Royal Shine
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2016, 07:18:28 AM »
Thanks for the quick reply, this is what I was looking for. Will give it a go and adjust some as needed.  Appreciate it!
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Re: 500/Royal Compound/Royal Shine
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2016, 10:41:54 AM »
One quick follow-up...

"Size of a quarter on all 4 sides"... That can be interpreted two ways...
Apply the size of a quarter 4 times, a new quarter every side
or
The size of a quarter, rubbed over the entire ball, then shine all 4 sides...

Which is right?
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Re: 500/Royal Compound/Royal Shine
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2016, 10:45:46 AM »
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Re: 500/Royal Compound/Royal Shine
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2016, 11:22:01 AM »
Ok, but that can be interpreted two ways.... :)

Thanks.... Will do.
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Re: 500/Royal Compound/Royal Shine
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2016, 08:36:49 PM »
Quote from: lefty50 on October 15, 2016, 10:41:54 AM
One quick follow-up...

"Size of a quarter on all 4 sides"... That can be interpreted two ways...
Apply the size of a quarter 4 times, a new quarter every side
or
The size of a quarter, rubbed over the entire ball, then shine all 4 sides...

Which is right?

YES!  (Just kidding)

I meant apply the size of a quarter 4 times, a new quarter every side.  That's my normal routine.  Just realize that there are still many variables that can be used.  Find a process that you can repeat and stick with it.

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Re: 500/Royal Compound/Royal Shine
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2016, 08:55:34 PM »
Quote from: notclay on October 15, 2016, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: lefty50 on October 15, 2016, 10:41:54 AM
One quick follow-up...

"Size of a quarter on all 4 sides"... That can be interpreted two ways...
Apply the size of a quarter 4 times, a new quarter every side
or
The size of a quarter, rubbed over the entire ball, then shine all 4 sides...

Which is right?

YES!  (Just kidding)

I meant apply the size of a quarter 4 times, a new quarter every side.  That's my normal routine.  Just realize that there are still many variables that can be used.  Find a process that you can repeat and stick with it.



A quarter, a nickel, a dime, don't get caught up in the picayune details. It depends on the liquidity of the polish. Yikes!!! Calm down already. (Not you, Lane)
These are not formulas whose success or failure depends on the measurement of xxx micro-liters or nano-ounces.
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Re: 500/Royal Compound/Royal Shine
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2016, 09:05:55 PM »
Yes, charlest!

The spinner I use is probably not what most of you have either.  It's not a table top model, and my favorite part is the water supply. 

Like I said earlier, just find a process that you can repeat relatively well and stick with it.  That way you remove one of the variables in the process, and helping you to know "which polish or compound does this or that reaction-wise".

By the way, although I've done lots of surface work experimenting over the years, I don't know many that have the knowledge base as Jeff (above).  He's the guy who I would never hesitate to bounce an idea off...

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Re: 500/Royal Compound/Royal Shine
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2016, 09:13:05 PM »
Jeff, I love you man, but TAKE A PILL! Jeez, all I'm asking is the appropriate starting point for polish for someone who has never used it before. There's a 4X difference in the two methods... that sir, is most certainly NOT picayune. I love your knowledge, but perhaps you're getting a swelled head...
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Re: 500/Royal Compound/Royal Shine
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2016, 09:41:48 PM »
Quote from: lefty50 on October 15, 2016, 09:13:05 PM
Jeff, I love you man, but TAKE A PILL! Jeez, all I'm asking is the appropriate starting point for polish for someone who has never used it before. There's a 4X difference in the two methods... that sir, is most certainly NOT picayune. I love your knowledge, but perhaps you're getting a swelled head...

Leave my head out of this.

No, 4x is not significant, when it comes to bowling polishes and to compounds. 

Sorry, Steve, but that is, as I see it. Truly.

99% of this depends on learning (and knowing)  what works for you. You need to play with the polish and the abrasive pads and the compounds on your balls. Experience is the bottom line, first, last and always. We, the somewhat experienced, can only pass on what we have learned. You have to learn to apply it to your situation.

That's as blunt and as succinct as I can put it.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."
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