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LadyW

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Need help choosing right surface
« on: March 05, 2004, 09:35:24 PM »
I have a 13# Hammer Blade Solid which was polished over it's 800 grit factory finish.

Overall the ball is working quite well but I feel I could use just a little more length.  I've had other posts regarding this ball and I've been told to bring the surface up to between 1000-1500 then polish.

How much of a difference can I expect at the 1000, 1200 and 1500 sanded then polished levels.  I bowl on synthetics with medium to sometimes heavy oil.
The backends are usually not totally stripped clean and I also encounter carrydown.

I don't want to go to far as I'm afraid the ball might go too long and not recover.

So, give me an idea as to which would be the best choice to try compared to the 800 polished state that I'm using now.  How much of a difference will each level make.

I've never experimented with polish before.  I've changed the surface on dull balls using 600, 800 and 1000.  Differences were quite significant for me.
Is this because of my slower speed?  That's why I'm afraid of going too far.

I would appreciate any input.
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LadyW

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Re: Need help choosing right surface
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2004, 12:59:16 PM »
Bob7 -

I actually visited that site before posting.  The problem is I don't know how to answer all the questions because my understanding is limited re:  track size, axis tilt, etc.

Can you just give me some generalities?
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Re: Need help choosing right surface
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2004, 01:13:27 PM »
Lady--The isn't really a right answer to this question.  The best thing to do is polish it some, throw it, then decide if you want more.  If you do repeat the process.  I usually go through this with new equipment.  I always change the surface a couple of times to see what I like best.  It is extremely easy to change the surface back.  If you put too much polish on it, resand and polish it to level you want.

The levels are like this.

800-900 light shine
1500 shiny
2000 little more
5000 mirror shine
finesse it-death-break out the razor its that shiny

The best answer is trial and error.

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LadyW

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Re: Need help choosing right surface
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2004, 01:35:01 PM »
agroves -

I know that I have to experiment.  I'm already using the ball with original 800 sanded then polished with Ebonite Factory Finish Polish.  I'm trying to determine how significant or minute each increment to 1000,1200 and 1500 sanded as the under surface before polishing with Factory Finish would be?

The pro shop is not in my neighborhood and I don't bowl in that house.  I can't practice there because they don't oil the lanes until just before league.

So I'm looking for some sort of comparison between the three different under surfaces.  I have limited understanding in this area and maybe this question cannot be answered.  I don't know.


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Re: Need help choosing right surface
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2004, 01:42:58 PM »
Lady--The simple answer is if you want to delay hook add another coat.  You should be able to find a reaction you will like.  IF you don't scuff the cover with a green scotchbrite at home and that will take some of the shine off.  Then you can do it all again.

Since you have factory finish polish, you would not be going in grit increments.  I would just continue to add another coat.  Remember the shinier the ball the more length it should get.

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LadyW

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Re: Need help choosing right surface
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2004, 01:54:21 PM »
Thanks for your help
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Re: Need help choosing right surface
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2004, 04:08:12 PM »
LW - Before you just look at polishing up the equipment more you may want to further assess what the ball may be doing.

If you start off and like the reaction of the ball and then can't get the ball to go long enough your line may be drying out and you will have to chase the oil line.  Polishing the ball will get you more length but if you catch the dry too soon it will jump hard or squirt on spotty conditions.

Just a thought.

You talk about carry down.  If you experience carrydown and you polish your equipment you may not be able to get the ball back with enough bite to drive the pocket.
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Re: Need help choosing right surface
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2004, 04:22:54 PM »
Doc Hollywood -

After reading over what I've written I realized that I made a mistake in stating what I'm trying to accomplish.

The ball in it's box condition hooked and flared too much for me.  Now that it's polished it's working pretty well.  I'd like to cut the hook and flare down just a bit more and save a bit more energy for the back end. It still goes a little wider than I want it to.

So if I understand correctly changing the surface to different degrees under the polish can accomplish this.  I think I was confusing length and hook.
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Re: Need help choosing right surface
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2004, 04:28:31 PM »
LW - What you may be asking for may not be possible with just a coverstock chnage.  It may also require a change of hand position to change the axis tilt and rotation.  It may also be the drill patern on the ball.


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Re: Need help choosing right surface
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2004, 04:39:14 PM »
Changing hand position is definitely out of the question.  I am just a twice a week league bowler with very basic skills.  I am extremely happy with this ball overall.  It is one of the best hitting 13# balls I've ever had.  I was just hoping to tweak it a little.  If not, I have no real problem with it the way it is.

Thanks for the input
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Re: Need help choosing right surface
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2004, 06:01:44 PM »
LW - Changing hand position is something that is very subtle and often times it is a matter of rotating the wrist 15-20 degrees.

Good luck
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