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General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: rico4life on June 25, 2017, 06:14:41 PM

Title: getting correct surface
Post by: rico4life on June 25, 2017, 06:14:41 PM
My question is because I have read a lot lately about how fast a abralon pad wears out are my best options to back to using wet/dry sandpaper?
Title: Re: getting correct surface
Post by: ignitebowling on June 25, 2017, 06:24:46 PM
No matter your choice in surface adjustment it's a limited time you will get the advertised grit.

A friend attended a recent clinic that advised through testing you can expect 20mins of use out of a selected pad (500,1000,2000) before it double in finish ex 500 turns to 1000.
Title: Re: getting correct surface
Post by: leftybowler70 on June 25, 2017, 06:58:05 PM
+1
Title: Re: getting correct surface
Post by: charlest on June 25, 2017, 07:42:33 PM
No matter your choice in surface adjustment it's a limited time you will get the advertised grit.

A friend attended a recent clinic that advised through testing you can expect 20mins of use out of a selected pad (500,1000,2000) before it double in finish ex 500 turns to 1000.

WOW! 20 minutes??
I would never have guessed that long.
My guesstimate from experience (no measurements) would have been 5 minutes for 4000 and 7 - 8  minutes for a 2000. Can't estimate a 500 or 1000.

Sandpaper of 1000 - 2500 grit FEPA last one use. That's a 3" x 4.5" piece folded in half to fit over a damp kitchen sponge as a flexible backing. (So, you can get 8 pieces from a 9"x12" piece of sandpaper.)
Title: Re: getting correct surface
Post by: HackJandy on June 25, 2017, 08:33:23 PM
Don't know so far as I only have a handful of uses but I am guessing my Trizact 3000 (6" sanding disc) will get more minutes than most at advertised grit.  Pretty affordable on Amazon as well.
Title: Re: getting correct surface
Post by: charlest on June 25, 2017, 09:02:37 PM
Don't know so far as I only have a handful of uses but I am guessing my Trizac 3000 (6" sanding disc) will get more minutes than most at advertised grit.  Pretty affordable on Amazon as well.

Trizact should last 20 hours, not minutes.
Well, maybe not really, but it will outlast anything short of diamonds, by a wide margin
Title: Re: getting correct surface
Post by: ignitebowling on June 25, 2017, 09:25:18 PM
No matter your choice in surface adjustment it's a limited time you will get the advertised grit.

A friend attended a recent clinic that advised through testing you can expect 20mins of use out of a selected pad (500,1000,2000) before it double in finish ex 500 turns to 1000.

WOW! 20 minutes??
I would never have guessed that long.
My guesstimate from experience (no measurements) would have been 5 minutes for 4000 and 7 - 8  minutes for a 2000. Can't estimate a 500 or 1000.

Sandpaper of 1000 - 2500 grit FEPA last one use. That's a 3" x 4.5" piece folded in half to fit over a damp kitchen sponge as a flexible backing. (So, you can get 8 pieces from a 9"x12" piece of sandpaper.)

My guess was 10mins at best.

This was according to storm/roto grip. I'm guessing that's how often they change out on the production line.
Title: Re: getting correct surface
Post by: charlest on June 25, 2017, 09:45:57 PM
No matter your choice in surface adjustment it's a limited time you will get the advertised grit.

A friend attended a recent clinic that advised through testing you can expect 20mins of use out of a selected pad (500,1000,2000) before it double in finish ex 500 turns to 1000.

WOW! 20 minutes??
I would never have guessed that long.
My guesstimate from experience (no measurements) would have been 5 minutes for 4000 and 7 - 8  minutes for a 2000. Can't estimate a 500 or 1000.

Sandpaper of 1000 - 2500 grit FEPA last one use. That's a 3" x 4.5" piece folded in half to fit over a damp kitchen sponge as a flexible backing. (So, you can get 8 pieces from a 9"x12" piece of sandpaper.)

My guess was 10mins at best.

This was according to storm/roto grip. I'm guessing that's how often they change out on the production line.

Maybe that's one reason why it seems that surfaces on new balls are so erratic??
(Some 4000 grit finished balls look like 2000 grit and others look polished.)
Title: Re: getting correct surface
Post by: ignitebowling on June 26, 2017, 01:11:58 PM
Agreed
Title: Re: getting correct surface
Post by: Impending Doom on June 26, 2017, 01:17:46 PM
No matter your choice in surface adjustment it's a limited time you will get the advertised grit.

A friend attended a recent clinic that advised through testing you can expect 20mins of use out of a selected pad (500,1000,2000) before it double in finish ex 500 turns to 1000.

WOW! 20 minutes??
I would never have guessed that long.
My guesstimate from experience (no measurements) would have been 5 minutes for 4000 and 7 - 8  minutes for a 2000. Can't estimate a 500 or 1000.

Sandpaper of 1000 - 2500 grit FEPA last one use. That's a 3" x 4.5" piece folded in half to fit over a damp kitchen sponge as a flexible backing. (So, you can get 8 pieces from a 9"x12" piece of sandpaper.)

My guess was 10mins at best.

This was according to storm/roto grip. I'm guessing that's how often they change out on the production line.

Maybe that's one reason why it seems that surfaces on new balls are so erratic??
(Some 4000 grit finished balls look like 2000 grit and others look polished.)
This may be the most logical explanation I've ever heard.
Title: Re: getting correct surface
Post by: 2handedvolcano on June 26, 2017, 03:47:54 PM
If more one handed staffers converted to 2 hands they would higher scores and not need to adjust surface
Title: Re: getting correct surface
Post by: milorafferty on June 26, 2017, 04:09:12 PM
Oh no, some one left the gate open again...
Title: Re: getting correct surface
Post by: Luke Morningwood on June 26, 2017, 05:35:40 PM
If more one handed staffers converted to 2 hands they would higher scores and not need to adjust surface

And if I could somehow get my right foot on there too.  ::)
Title: Re: getting correct surface
Post by: djgook on June 27, 2017, 06:37:16 AM
I thought NoHandVolcano retired. DAM