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General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: 2handedrook12 on February 26, 2013, 11:04:05 PM

Title: is this illegal?
Post by: 2handedrook12 on February 26, 2013, 11:04:05 PM
Dull some parts of a bowling ball ans polishing the other? This would be the only way to make a storm secret agent type reaction. Like polishing most of the track but dulling some of it.
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: J_Mac on February 26, 2013, 11:06:53 PM
Dull some parts of a bowling ball ans polishing the other? This would be the only way to make a storm secret agent type reaction. Like polishing most of the track but dulling some of it.

It's illegal... doesn't stop it  from happening though.
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: 2handedrook12 on February 26, 2013, 11:18:57 PM
Ok just wondering. That explains why there are surface adjustments of 500/4000 compared to the step by step 4000. I only ask because I was thinking the track surface changes as the ball is thrown. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: Rightycomplex on February 27, 2013, 07:27:14 AM
Yes it does. However, that is to be expected with the ball. Its a natural track in the ball. Besides, if you're going to go thru all the trouble of sand and polishing just the track (which as JMac has mentioned is illegal), you might as well do the whole ball.
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: tdub36tjt on February 27, 2013, 07:56:20 AM
Sanding the back flares on a polished ball gives a different type reaction than you can get with any other surface adjustment. Its illegal but like jmac said it is very common. I know a shop in my area that doesn't let a polished ball leave the shop without doing it.......
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: txbowler on February 27, 2013, 09:59:21 AM
Ok, Why is it illegal?
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: storm making it rain on February 27, 2013, 10:12:13 AM
Rule 18/4 in USBC Rulebook:

Can a bowler use an abrasive on just the track or just a portion of the track on the ball?

No. USBC specifications require that the entire surface of the ball be sanded in a uniform manner. Sanding a ball in any other manner would be a violation of Rule 17a, Item 1. The penalty for a violation of this rule can include disqualification, forfeiture, removal from the league, and or suspension of USBC membership.

Rule 17a Item 1 reads:  (Unfair Tactics)

Directly or indirectly tampering with lanes, pins or bowling balls so they no longer meet USBC specifications.
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: txbowler on February 27, 2013, 10:18:41 AM
Thank you.  I learned something new today.
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: storm making it rain on February 27, 2013, 10:22:41 AM
Thank you.  I learned something new today.

I wasn't to sure either, so I looked it up.  I'm not sure how new that rule is because i remember getting told to "hit" the bowties with a pad several (2003 i think) year's ago by a reputable pro shop. 
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: themachine300 on February 27, 2013, 02:13:57 PM
I'll admit, I've done it before.  4000 grit+ shine and sanding backflares can make the ball go absolutely nuts in the back part of the lane, hence it's illegal.  Haven't done it in years, was used on my Angular One but man it was fun to throw when they were walled up.
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: northface28 on February 27, 2013, 02:20:49 PM
Whob knew? Guys have been doing this for many years. Ill continue to do it.
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: DP3 on February 27, 2013, 05:30:23 PM
I used to bowl with a senior bowler that regularly did this in a house that seemed to never fully strip the backend.  He used to say "I need all the help I can get to get the 5 pin out."  Classic.
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: Brandon Riley on February 27, 2013, 06:49:10 PM
Dull some parts of a bowling ball ans polishing the other? This would be the only way to make a storm secret agent type reaction. Like polishing most of the track but dulling some of it.

It's illegal... doesn't stop it  from happening though.

so true!
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: lsf_21 on February 27, 2013, 09:01:53 PM
I know a shop in my area that doesn't let a polished ball leave the shop without doing it.......

thats just stupid.
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: duvallite on February 28, 2013, 03:59:51 PM
Whob knew? Guys have been doing this for many years. Ill continue to do it.

That's the same bad-logic that Lance Armstrong and his cycling pals have been using to gain an unfair advantage.  Why not just follow the rules and play the game the right way?
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: completebowler on February 28, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
That rule has been in effect for a very long time. Guys do it but in my opinion it doesn't really help. Most people when they throw a bad shot "mis hit" the ball. So, on top of a slight miss at the bottom, you accentuate the lack of downlane motion because the ball doesn't flare as much and find the sanded part of the flares.

The result ends up being a washout instead of a soft 10 pin. But if you would rather try to cheat go ahead. Been happening since bowling was invented.
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: bigz on March 01, 2013, 08:25:12 AM
Isn't that what the quantum ball with pearl track area and solid black cover had??
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: tywithay on March 01, 2013, 09:36:30 AM
The coverstock can only have one finish all the way around. The Quantum Helix had a pearl urethane stripe surrounded by a solid, but it was all sanded the same.
Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: trash heap on March 12, 2013, 01:30:29 PM
Of all the rules the USBC wants to uphold. The most amusing part of it is... there is no way proving someone doing this other than seeing them do it.

Is there any harm in doing this to a ball?
Is there any harm to the lanes by doing this?

With all the cores and coverstocks we have available to us today this rule seems kind of past its time.
 

Title: Re: is this illegal?
Post by: storm making it rain on March 12, 2013, 01:37:09 PM
You could say the same thing anout static weights, there's probably a lot of rules that are or should be extinct.




Of all the rules the USBC wants to uphold. The most amusing part of it is... there is no way proving someone doing this other than seeing them do it.

Is there any harm in doing this to a ball?
Is there any harm to the lanes by doing this?

With all the cores and coverstocks we have available to us today this rule seems kind of past its time.