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Title: Magic Eraser
Post by: lifted rillo on March 13, 2013, 11:34:11 AM
Anyone ever use a magic eraser on their equipment? I read that there's no chemical in them and the secret ingredient is elbow grease. I bowl in a house that is absolutely terrible about belt marks. Thinking this might be a good idea. Any opinions?
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: TWOHAND834 on March 13, 2013, 12:06:59 PM
Anyone ever use a magic eraser on their equipment? I read that there's no chemical in them and the secret ingredient is elbow grease. I bowl in a house that is absolutely terrible about belt marks. Thinking this might be a good idea. Any opinions?

I would be a little leery about using something not really designed for bowling balls on them.  IMO....there is plenty of cleaners out there that are allowed to be used during competition that should work just fine.  I guess someone has to be the guinea pig when it comes to new things though.  It may be worth someone taking an old ball they dont use much anymore and trying the eraser and see what happens.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: lifted rillo on March 13, 2013, 12:09:13 PM
I'm thinking I'll try it out on my spare ball next time I get a belt mark. Just wondering if it'll take polish off it not.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: TWOHAND834 on March 13, 2013, 12:59:14 PM
I'm thinking I'll try it out on my spare ball next time I get a belt mark. Just wondering if it'll take polish off it not.

If you decide to do it; let us know what results you find.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: charlest on March 13, 2013, 02:05:12 PM
Interesting. My wife's Magic Eraser is close and I rarely clean my spare ball. So....

The ME did do some cleaning; it got slightly dirty. A couple of oil streaks got absorbed. The polished parts did not get dull, but I did it my hand NOT on a spinner.
Magic Erasers aren't cheap compared to ball cleaner and a rag. Play with it to your heart's content; I just wouldn't recommend it because it's not made for balls.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: CubsFan on March 13, 2013, 02:22:52 PM
The house I bowl at the most is also horrible when it comes to belt marks, particularly on polished balls. No approved during use cleaner I've tried has ever worked. Even stronger cleaners like CnD require major elbow grease. Only thing I've found to work is acetone. Which is on the "not allowed at any time" list.

I'd also be interested to hear how the Magic Eraser did.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: charlest on March 13, 2013, 04:11:29 PM
The house I bowl at the most is also horrible when it comes to belt marks, particularly on polished balls. No approved during use cleaner I've tried has ever worked. Even stronger cleaners like CnD require major elbow grease. Only thing I've found to work is acetone. Which is on the "not allowed at any time" list.

I'd also be interested to hear how the Magic Eraser did.

I wouldn't use ME on belt marks. I use Lanemasters cleaner (I've found it more effective than acetone) to take off all belt marks and glue from loose carpeting in the back of the pin deck, after league bowling is over. I doubt any cleaner approved for use DURING bowling would remove belt marks.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: Mbosco on March 13, 2013, 04:22:46 PM
I use Brunswick Remove All and I've never had a problem getting belt marks off.  It's approved for use during competition, I believe (I don't have the bottle around at the moment).
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: charlest on March 13, 2013, 04:53:32 PM
I use Brunswick Remove All and I've never had a problem getting belt marks off.  It's approved for use during competition, I believe (I don't have the bottle around at the moment).

That almost shocks me. I didn't have  good results with it.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: milorafferty on March 13, 2013, 05:18:51 PM
Ah, so that is where the glue comes from. One of the houses I bowl has that problem really bad. Lane Masters cleaner will take it off with some work, but there is something better than acetone or Lane Masters cleaner. It's a ball cleaner called 10th Frame Ultra Clean. It is not allowed by USBC for use at any time. LOL But it's the only thing that takes the glue off without serious scrubbing.

The house I bowl at the most is also horrible when it comes to belt marks, particularly on polished balls. No approved during use cleaner I've tried has ever worked. Even stronger cleaners like CnD require major elbow grease. Only thing I've found to work is acetone. Which is on the "not allowed at any time" list.

I'd also be interested to hear how the Magic Eraser did.

I wouldn't use ME on belt marks. I use Lanemasters cleaner (I've found it more effective than acetone) to take off all belt marks and glue from loose carpeting in the back of the pin deck, after league bowling is over. I doubt any cleaner approved for use DURING bowling would remove belt marks.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: J_Mac on March 13, 2013, 05:56:04 PM
I use Brunswick Remove All and I've never had a problem getting belt marks off.  It's approved for use during competition, I believe (I don't have the bottle around at the moment).

That almost shocks me. I didn't have  good results with it.

Why would you?  As far as I'm concerned it's glorified window cleaner...
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: swinginwehner on March 13, 2013, 06:37:33 PM
I have used magic eraser on my hammer corner works great but after
clean with ball cleaner for best results.
Do not use on polished balls the eraser has a little grit to it and will
dull the finish.
Overall i think it works great saves on expensive ball cleaner
and a lot less work, just my two cents
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: CubsFan on March 13, 2013, 07:00:12 PM
Ah, so that is where the glue comes from. One of the houses I bowl has that problem really bad. Lane Masters cleaner will take it off with some work, but there is something better than acetone or Lane Masters cleaner. It's a ball cleaner called 10th Frame Ultra Clean. It is not allowed by USBC for use at any time. LOL But it's the only thing that takes the glue off without serious scrubbing.

The house I bowl at the most is also horrible when it comes to belt marks, particularly on polished balls. No approved during use cleaner I've tried has ever worked. Even stronger cleaners like CnD require major elbow grease. Only thing I've found to work is acetone. Which is on the "not allowed at any time" list.

I'd also be interested to hear how the Magic Eraser did.

I wouldn't use ME on belt marks. I use Lanemasters cleaner (I've found it more effective than acetone) to take off all belt marks and glue from loose carpeting in the back of the pin deck, after league bowling is over. I doubt any cleaner approved for use DURING bowling would remove belt marks.

I'm fairly certain 10th Frame cleaner is on the unapproved list due to the fact it contains acetone. I considered buying it but figured if I'm gonna use acetone anyway, I may as well use it straight up. It's also a hell of a lot cheaper and easier buying direct from the local paint store.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: charlest on March 13, 2013, 07:25:19 PM
I only learned of this situation on Monday myself. This is what is happening where I bowl. I cannot guarantee it is the same where you are. They seem like what was described to me as belt marks, but I guess they are different. In any case, Lanemasters cleaner removed both for me.

Not as far as I know. Tenth Frame's Ultra contains acetone. I have found Lanemasters cleaner better than pure acetone, purchased from Home Depot and Lowe's in their paint departments, at removing anything on a bowling ball surface. That is what I have found. I'll leave your decision of what to use up to you.
 

Ah, so that is where the glue comes from. One of the houses I bowl has that problem really bad. Lane Masters cleaner will take it off with some work, but there is something better than acetone or Lane Masters cleaner. It's a ball cleaner called 10th Frame Ultra Clean. It is not allowed by USBC for use at any time. LOL But it's the only thing that takes the glue off without serious scrubbing.

The house I bowl at the most is also horrible when it comes to belt marks, particularly on polished balls. No approved during use cleaner I've tried has ever worked. Even stronger cleaners like CnD require major elbow grease. Only thing I've found to work is acetone. Which is on the "not allowed at any time" list.

I'd also be interested to hear how the Magic Eraser did.

I wouldn't use ME on belt marks. I use Lanemasters cleaner (I've found it more effective than acetone) to take off all belt marks and glue from loose carpeting in the back of the pin deck, after league bowling is over. I doubt any cleaner approved for use DURING bowling would remove belt marks.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: Tripcee on March 13, 2013, 08:04:54 PM
I've been using those PowerHouse wipes. They knock that crap right off the ball. It's pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: Mbosco on March 13, 2013, 08:07:44 PM
I bought a 32 oz bottle a while back (which lasts and lasts...).  It might be glorified window cleaner, but it does the job I want it to and has the handy label telling you when it's certified to be used.  And since I use Brunswick equipment, I thought a Brunswick cleaner couldn't hurt.

I use Brunswick Remove All and I've never had a problem getting belt marks off.  It's approved for use during competition, I believe (I don't have the bottle around at the moment).

That almost shocks me. I didn't have  good results with it.

Why would you?  As far as I'm concerned it's glorified window cleaner...
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: charlest on March 13, 2013, 08:42:56 PM
I bought a 32 oz bottle a while back (which lasts and lasts...).  It might be glorified window cleaner, but it does the job I want it to and has the handy label telling you when it's certified to be used.  And since I use Brunswick equipment, I thought a Brunswick cleaner couldn't hurt.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I didn't want to say that, but I believe it is true. I gave a bottle of another cleaner to a teammate just to get him to stop using it.
BUT
if it does the job you need, that is THE only important thing you need to know.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: Dave81644 on March 13, 2013, 09:22:04 PM
Hands down, best out there and approved during league as mentioned before
POWERHOUSE ADRENALINE WIPES

Takes off anything, leaves surface clean and squeaky........
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: hyme29 on March 14, 2013, 07:10:10 AM
The magic eraser is abrasive to a extent .... I have used before and it will knock the shine off ..and it did alter my surface a bit but got the ball exceptionally clean lol
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: Strapper_Squared on March 14, 2013, 10:02:48 AM
I really used to like the neo-tac Nitro cleaner.  Does Brunswick still make/sell this?
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: swingset on March 29, 2013, 08:30:19 AM
A good thing to use for belt marks is a 3M white finishing pad, which you can find at Lowes in the paint department. It's like a super fine grit scotch brite pad.

They're fine enough that they'll take the belt marks off with light pressure but won't scuff up a polished ball.

Cheap, too.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: charlest on March 29, 2013, 09:05:02 AM
I really used to like the neo-tac Nitro cleaner.  Does Brunswick still make/sell this?

Brunswick markets it for Neo-Tac, as far as I know. Some internet places carry it. Here's one
http://www.bowlerx.com/Brunswick_c59.htm (http://www.bowlerx.com/Brunswick_c59.htm)
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: Tex on March 29, 2013, 09:06:29 AM
May be repeating something already mentioned. But it is illegal to use Acetone on the surface of a bowling ball before or during competition. I don't think USBC is talking about wiping off a small spot of glue but belt marks are a little larger than a spot of glue next to a finger and almost always are in the track for some reason. So would be pretty sure cleaning the surface of the ball would be a no no..
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: tdub36tjt on March 29, 2013, 04:36:14 PM
A good thing to use for belt marks is a 3M white finishing pad, which you can find at Lowes in the paint department. It's like a super fine grit scotch brite pad.

They're fine enough that they'll take the belt marks off with light pressure but won't scuff up a polished ball.

Cheap, too.

I do believe they change the surface of the ball tho. They are over 5000 from what I've heard....
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: swingset on April 08, 2013, 06:33:06 PM
A good thing to use for belt marks is a 3M white finishing pad, which you can find at Lowes in the paint department. It's like a super fine grit scotch brite pad.

They're fine enough that they'll take the belt marks off with light pressure but won't scuff up a polished ball.

Cheap, too.

I do believe they change the surface of the ball tho. They are over 5000 from what I've heard....

They're too fine to change it appreciably - let's face it, EVERYTHING changes the surface (including the lane), and if it's aggressive enough to change a belt mark, it's affecting the surface. The finishing pads don't make any visible scuffs, which is good enough for me.
Title: Re: Magic Eraser
Post by: charlest on April 08, 2013, 07:20:32 PM
White Scotch-Brite pads are 1200 grit US/CAMI; that's about P2400 girt FEPA (the Abralon equivalent). They use talc as the abrasive; talc is what's considered talcum powder.