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Steven

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New Neo-Tac Surface Products
« on: August 06, 2018, 02:42:46 PM »
I had the opportunity to test a new Neo-Tac liquid product called Surface Pro 3000, which will be released for sale in the next month. It's advertised to be a combined cleaner & surface refresh that leaves a 2500/3000 finish. It can be applied by hand or on a spinner.
 
I tested the product on a Radical Guru Supreme, which is an aggressive solid that quickly picks up lane shine, track marks and the other nasty stuff that comes off the lane. Using a paper towel by hand, I cleaned the ball up with SP 3000 before an 8 game session. The ball had already been cleaned several times over several practice sessions with Valentino Remedy, but there was accumulated lane shine and stubborn track marks still present. SP 3000 removed the shine and all marks, leaving the surface at what appeared to be about a 500/1000/3000 abralon surface.
 
On the lanes, the ball reacted well on a fresh THS shot. I was able to get better recovery from further inside than I would have from just Remedy cleaning. After the 8 game set, I cleaned the ball at the lanes with Remedy, and when I got home, hand cleaned the ball again with SP 3000. Lane shine and track marks were removed. The paper towel also appeared to pick up a little oil not removed by Remedy.
 
I really like SP 3000. I didn't like Hook Plus that they released a few years ago. Given my experience with that product, I was a little suspicious, but Neo-Tac got this one right.
 
It's convenient to have a cleaner and surface refresh all in one product, and seems to work as advertised. Neo-Tac will also release Surface Pro 2000, which leaves a 1500/2000 finish. I'm looking forward to testing that one out in the next week or so.   

 

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Re: New Neo-Tac Surface Products
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2018, 03:11:08 PM »
So.......Your telling me it removes lane shine? Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't lane shine the surface being brought up to a higher surface grit by the hard lane surface?

I may never need any more Abralon pads!!!

Steven

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Re: New Neo-Tac Surface Products
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2018, 03:41:46 PM »
So.......Your telling me it removes lane shine? Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't lane shine the surface being brought up to a higher surface grit by the hard lane surface?

I may never need any more Abralon pads!!!

 
Yes, you're basically correct that lane shine is the surface being brought up to a higher surface grit. I believe it's also partially oil accumulation. That's why a really strong cleaners like Hook-It and C&D remove more "shine" than everyday water based cleaners.   
 
Part of the advertising on the bottle says "Save on sanding pads". I can see needing many fewer sessions on the spinner, but there is a point where all balls need a complete resurface. I'm not abandoning my spinner any time soon.
 
What I like so far about SP 3000 is that it seems more controlled and predictable to use relative to Storm Reacta Skuff or Motiv Power Gel Scuff. These liquid abrasives can give you more surface than you want if you're not careful with the pressure.

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Re: New Neo-Tac Surface Products
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2018, 04:07:26 PM »
So.......Your telling me it removes lane shine? Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't lane shine the surface being brought up to a higher surface grit by the hard lane surface?

I may never need any more Abralon pads!!!

 
Yes, you're basically correct that lane shine is the surface being brought up to a higher surface grit. I believe it's also partially oil accumulation. That's why a really strong cleaners like Hook-It and C&D remove more "shine" than everyday water based cleaners.   
 
Part of the advertising on the bottle says "Save on sanding pads". I can see needing many fewer sessions on the spinner, but there is a point where all balls need a complete resurface. I'm not abandoning my spinner any time soon.
 
What I like so far about SP 3000 is that it seems more controlled and predictable to use relative to Storm Reacta Skuff or Motiv Power Gel Scuff. These liquid abrasives can give you more surface than you want if you're not careful with the pressure.

I would hesitate to apply this using a spinner.
More often than not, using a spinner with abrasives, be they liquids, compounds or pads, seem to bring the surface to finer, i.e. higher numerical grit level, than that specified by the product. I don't know that this is the case with this new compound, Surface Pro 3000, but I would err on the side of caution.
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Re: New Neo-Tac Surface Products
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2018, 04:15:27 PM »

I would hesitate to apply this using a spinner.
More often than not, using a spinner with abrasives, be they liquids, compounds or pads, seem to bring the surface to finer, i.e. higher numerical grit level, than that specified by the product. I don't know that this is the case with this new compound, Surface Pro 3000, but I would err on the side of caution.

 
I agree.
 
Even though they advertise it can be used on a spinner, I don't plan to. It's too easy to take the surface to a much higher grit than desired. The only liquid abrasive I occasionally use on the spinner is Storm Step 2. You have to be really careful on time and pressure to avoid going overboard. I found that out the hard way when I quickly turned my Guru Limited into shinny marble.  ;D