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rico4life

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oil removal
« on: December 19, 2015, 09:05:20 PM »
want to get people's opinion on best oil remover/rejuvenator for the money?

 

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Re: oil removal
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2015, 11:12:23 PM »
I recommend the Nu Ball Rejuvenator without any hesitation. See http://scbp.biz/ It is a unit which does an excellent job of extracting oil. My main ball is the Sigma Sting which I use in a house that has medium + oil. After 15-18 games, I will put the Sting in the Nu Ball unit for 60-90 minutes at 125 degrees. Motiv balls are considered to have the slowest oil absorption rate, but the Nu Ball took quite a bit of oil from my Sting. And I wipe the ball before each shot and clean it immediately after a series.

The Nu Ball unit has a temperature gauge which I understand is very accurate. You can buy the unit direct from Salmon Creek Bowling Products (which I did) for $189.00 which seems to be the going rate elsewhere as well. I know that Innovative Bowling offers an oil extraction unit for a similar price. I am sure that the Innovative unit is excellent, too, but the Nu Ball Rejuvenator gets my vote.
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Re: oil removal
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2015, 11:15:00 PM »
I built my own similar to the nuball. It is well worth the price. Most high performance bowling balls with any surface really absorb a lot of oil.

Many mid performance bowling balls do as well.

Must have for any serious bowlers are a ball spinner first,  and an oven second.
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Re: oil removal
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2015, 08:41:34 AM »
I recommend the Nu Ball Rejuvenator without any hesitation. See http://scbp.biz/ It is a unit which does an excellent job of extracting oil. My main ball is the Sigma Sting which I use in a house that has medium + oil. After 15-18 games, I will put the Sting in the Nu Ball unit for 60-90 minutes at 125 degrees. Motiv balls are considered to have the slowest oil absorption rate, but the Nu Ball took quite a bit of oil from my Sting. And I wipe the ball before each shot and clean it immediately after a series.

The Nu Ball unit has a temperature gauge which I understand is very accurate. You can buy the unit direct from Salmon Creek Bowling Products (which I did) for $189.00 which seems to be the going rate elsewhere as well. I know that Innovative Bowling offers an oil extraction unit for a similar price. I am sure that the Innovative unit is excellent, too, but the Nu Ball Rejuvenator gets my vote.

It's also available here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BCQ0YG6/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=

Contact the company via their web site for more potential discounts, like for senior citizens and students.
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Re: oil removal
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2015, 07:12:12 PM »
I built my own similar to the nuball. It is well worth the price. Most high performance bowling balls with any surface really absorb a lot of oil.

Many mid performance bowling balls do as well.

Must have for any serious bowlers are a ball spinner first,  and an oven second.
+1.  An oven just like the Nuball is very easy to make at less than half the cost.  A quick search should show you how and what you'd need.  Getting a spinner is HIGHLY recommended if you bowl very much at all.  Probably the best bowling investment I've made.

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Re: oil removal
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2015, 08:24:05 AM »
I had a shop operator tell me they don't do oil removal there because after 9 games the ball returns to what it was before.  What are your opinions on that?  Have any of you tried a hot box device AND the detox? 

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Re: oil removal
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2015, 11:39:57 AM »
I would say you need to new pro-shop.
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Re: oil removal
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2015, 11:47:03 AM »
I have never heard that "after 9 games the ball returns to what it was before." There is probably no substitute for some type of controlled heat application to de-oil the ball with a commercially sold unit, home made unit, or a dishwasher.
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Re: oil removal
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2015, 12:51:28 PM »
The Jayhawk Detox is the quickest, safest, and most efficient means of oil extraction.  That is not an opinion, it is a fact, the testing has been done.  It exposes the ball to a low and moist heat for a much lower time, the oil is actually extracted rather than heated up just to seep out, plus there is a deep cleaner in the Accelerator solution to use with it that helps to flush out and clean the pores on the ball. 

If the ball returns to how it was in 9 games, it was done wrong.  Different companies' coverstocks have different absorption rates, but even Hammer, which in my experience has the fastest absorption rate, still lasts for a good 40-50 games between treatments. 
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Re: oil removal
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2015, 03:31:25 PM »
The Jayhawk Detox is the quickest, safest, and most efficient means of oil extraction.  That is not an opinion, it is a fact, the testing has been done.

The OP specifically asked about the best method "for the money".
 
For the money it's going to depend on how many balls you own, and how often you bowl. For someone who owns 20+ balls, and bowls 20-30 games per week across said balls, the Detox may not be the most cost efficient method.
 
I can buy a heat bucket for under $200 (I did), and I can say unequivocally that it works. And it works safely if you stay within manufacturer heat guidelines. I believe it's still open to debate how much more effective Detox may or may not be. If I recall, you weren't able to quantify this when you first started using and recommending the product. 
 
My bucket paid for itself over the first few weeks of use. If I want to use Detox, assuming I can find a shop that has one, I'll be paying $15-$20 per ball, since it's not an at home consumer product. That cost never goes away, and at least for me, would be a prohibitively expensive option over the long run.
 
For someone who bowls much less, and has no desire to own a personal revivor unit, Detox at a proshop might be an attractive option.
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Re: oil removal
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2015, 05:40:23 PM »
True, I missed the for the money part.  However, it's been a while since I first started recommending it.  We have done our own internal testing, as one Detox for one shop is relatively worth the shot, while buying one for each of our other 5 remaining shops is a little more of a risk if it's not worth it.  Brunswick has also done it's own research, and ours agrees with theirs.  It's been confirmed to be the safest and most efficient means of oil extraction currently on the market, and is actually recommended by Brunswick. 

Depending on where you go, it's $15-30 for a Detox treatment.  We charge $20.  Personally, trying to be as objective as possible, IF I had a shop in my town with a Detox, I would take it to be Detoxed rather than buy my own personal unit.  If I had to drive any kind of distance or didn't have one in my area, I'd most likely buy my own personal unit.  Prior to getting the Detox, I hadn't realized how huge a factor oil absorption was in relation to reaction.  I knew it was a big factor, just didn't quite realize how big.  Oil extraction is essential to longevity, so I'd definitely make sure I had access to some way to do it, even if it wasn't as "efficient" or complete. 

The Jayhawk Detox is the quickest, safest, and most efficient means of oil extraction.  That is not an opinion, it is a fact, the testing has been done.

The OP specifically asked about the best method "for the money".
 
For the money it's going to depend on how many balls you own, and how often you bowl. For someone who owns 20+ balls, and bowls 20-30 games per week across said balls, the Detox may not be the most cost efficient method.
 
I can buy a heat bucket for under $200 (I did), and I can say unequivocally that it works. And it works safely if you stay within manufacturer heat guidelines. I believe it's still open to debate how much more effective Detox may or may not be. If I recall, you weren't able to quantify this when you first started using and recommending the product. 
 
My bucket paid for itself over the first few weeks of use. If I want to use Detox, assuming I can find a shop that has one, I'll be paying $15-$20 per ball, since it's not an at home consumer product. That cost never goes away, and at least for me, would be a prohibitively expensive option over the long run.
 
For someone who bowls much less, and has no desire to own a personal revivor unit, Detox at a proshop might be an attractive option.
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Re: oil removal
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2015, 08:01:15 PM »
I have the Nu Ball and it is a great home personal unit for the money.  One of the local pro shops charges $20 and the other charges $30.  My wife and I have enough balls between us to justify the cost of the Nu Ball.  I was going to build a oven from the Nesco Dehydrator sold at Bed Bath & Beyond for under $100, but I'm told the temp. settings may or may not be accurate.
I tested the temperature accuracy of my Nu Ball unit and it is accurate as stated on the temp. dial.