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Title: still using simple green?
Post by: stanski on November 20, 2005, 03:11:43 PM
A few years back on this website there seemed to be a simple green craze, people just couldn't get enough of cleaning their balls with the stuff. How many of you are still using it as an everyday cleaner, and what is your "secret" cleaning formula?

Me personally, i clean my balls once a week (too lazy to do any more than that) with a mixture of 1 part simple green, 1.5 parts acetone, 1 part alcohol and 2 parts water. This and a hot water bath every 3 months has kept my ball reaction going strong on all of my balls and caused me to retire them only because they are so nicked up that I can't stand looking at them anymore. If you are not using simple green anymore, why did you switch off of it?
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: icetink on November 20, 2005, 11:42:02 PM
The unused/leftover vitamins and minerals may end up clogging the pores ... but at least you'll be able to make any ball smell like a Storm ball! LOL!  J/K!  I guess I could try it on one of my old balls that have been sitting in the basement for a few years.

As far as Simple Green goes, I still use it to clean my stuff regularly.  Simply 40% Simple Green, 50% water, 10% rubbing alcohol.  I clean my balls on a spinner, so the added heat from friction works well in extracting some oil.  I'm happy; it doesn't make shiny balls dull or dull balls shiny.

I though acetone was illegal as well ... it's under the "Not Acceptable at Any Time" header.
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: shelley on November 21, 2005, 12:02:19 AM
Acetone, in any form, is illegal.  Doesn't matter if you cut it with Simple Green, alcohol, or anything else.  Still illegal.

I've been using Simple Green on mine for a while.  I cut it with water, more than 50/50 SG, though, so it's not real dilute.  I tried cutting it with alcohol, but it made it real runny and didn't seem to clean quite as well.

SH
Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: shakezilla9 on November 21, 2005, 01:15:14 AM
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This sounds retarded, but I wonder if anyone has ever took a leak on a bowling ball to clean it lol... If so, how well it worked!
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if you peed on a ball would that make it illegal due to the fact that when the body breaks down fat for energy acetone goes into the urin? a dumb question added onto another dumb question but what i said is true.
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: shakezilla9 on November 21, 2005, 01:24:30 AM
well you should try it out. its the legal way to use an illegal substance. but you might have to starve yourself for 1 to 2 days to make your body turn to fat rather than carbs for energy. not practical but its always fun to think up loop holes in systems
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: nd300 on November 21, 2005, 02:45:37 AM
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: azguy on November 21, 2005, 03:36:24 AM
I clean mine and my wife's balls with my personal formula. It contains Simple Green and works great. I have sold it to several guys locally and they all say it keeps the balls very clean.

I think , if you look at some other comments here, you'll see some folks trying out other types of cleaners as well. Some I really wouldn't think would be good for a ball, others might not hurt them, it's more a personal preference, I guess.

As with companies, we all have our own preference in what we use and use to clean them. Acetone is one product I would never use, not legal and I personally would never use it to clean a ball, JMO.
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: charlest on November 21, 2005, 06:16:43 AM
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Acetone, in any form, is illegal.  Doesn't matter if you cut it with Simple Green, alcohol, or anything else.  Still illegal.
SH

 
I'd have to say that is definitely not true, based on this:

Denatured ethyl alcohol is also on the illegal-to-use-at-an-time list, YET Storm has used it as a major ingredient in a number of their cleaners. In fact, it used to even be listed on the bottle. So if both are illegal, why weren't all Storm cleaners that used it illegal?

The idea is each cleaner has to be tested on its own. In reduced concentrations, any liquid may not have the effect that the effect that the individual liquid does by itself.

FYI THE test is to see if the liquid softens the ball when soaked in a rag and laid on a ball for 15 or 30 minutes.


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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: charlest on November 21, 2005, 06:18:45 AM
I don't use Simple Green because I know it leaves a film on the ball or an surface on which it is used. I don't want that film on my bowling balls.
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: scotts33 on November 21, 2005, 06:22:09 AM
I used to use Simple Green.  I now use Legends/LM ball cleaner nasty smelling stuff but does a very good job.


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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: DArtagnon on November 21, 2005, 09:18:52 AM
Still using Simple Green diluted with water. I find is does a fine job cleaning a ball, though after reading Charlest's comments, have been thinking of going back to a commercial cleaner. As someone else on these boards said, Your bowling balls are an investment, why go cheap on maintaining the coverstock.
Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: shelley on November 21, 2005, 09:38:00 AM
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Still using Simple Green diluted with water. I find is does a fine job cleaning a ball, though after reading Charlest's comments, have been thinking of going back to a commercial cleaner. As someone else on these boards said, Your bowling balls are an investment, why go cheap on maintaining the coverstock.


I've got a bottle of Ebonite Powerhouse Energizer and I can't stand it.  Leaves a greasy film on the ball.  Granted, I'm using it without a spinner, but it seems like a LITTLE of that stuff on a rag leaves a LOT of greasy film.  I have to clean that stuff off afterwards.  So I stick with SG and water.  Cheap and, for me, more effective.

SH
Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: charlest on November 21, 2005, 10:16:02 AM
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Still using Simple Green diluted with water. I find is does a fine job cleaning a ball, though after reading Charlest's comments, have been thinking of going back to a commercial cleaner. As someone else on these boards said, Your bowling balls are an investment, why go cheap on maintaining the coverstock.


Indeed. It takes so little if you clean your stuff regularly and don't give the ball a btah every time. Been taking a 4 oz bottle with me and cleaning my 2-3 balls after each of 2 weekly league sessions for the past 2 months. Still have 2/3 of the bottle left. The bottle cost $6.50 originally.

So your quart of Simple Green plus water/alcohol/acetone should last your whole LIFETIME!
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: stanski on November 21, 2005, 08:38:44 PM
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Still using Simple Green diluted with water. I find is does a fine job cleaning a ball, though after reading Charlest's comments, have been thinking of going back to a commercial cleaner. As someone else on these boards said, Your bowling balls are an investment, why go cheap on maintaining the coverstock.


Indeed. It takes so little if you clean your stuff regularly and don't give the ball a btah every time. Been taking a 4 oz bottle with me and cleaning my 2-3 balls after each of 2 weekly league sessions for the past 2 months. Still have 2/3 of the bottle left. The bottle cost $6.50 originally.

So your quart of Simple Green plus water/alcohol/acetone should last your whole LIFETIME!
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Charlest, the simple green bottle that i bought from sam's club has lasted me well over 3 years (along with 3 bottles of acetone and alcohol at a cost of $10).

I honestly do not care that acetone is illegal, nearly every pro shop in the country has a bottle of it around to clean off superglue. I know people who went to nationals and said every ball rep had a bottle behind the counter. Its an outdated rule and a rule that I honestly don't care to follow.

I know simple green by itself does leave a film, but when mixed with alcohol it evaporates so fast that it does not have time to leave any film. This still works just as good if not better than any cleaner on the market at a fraction of the cost.
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: Sawuser on November 21, 2005, 09:59:23 PM
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I don't use Simple Green because I know it leaves a film on the ball or an surface on which it is used. I don't want that film on my bowling balls.
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Charlest, I don't use simple green, but I use orange clean degreaser. Any soap will probably leave a slight film, but I always wipe mine down a second time with windex which removes any film that may be on the ball. This has been working great for me.



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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: JohnP on November 22, 2005, 10:13:32 AM
charlest & others -- Yes, Simple Green leaves a film on the ball.  But try wiping the ball after the cleaning with a wet rag, then drying it with a dry rag.  No film left.  I use a mixture of equal quantities of Simple Green, rubbing alcohol, and water.  I have followed this by using several other proprietary cleaners and have seen very little additional visible dirt removed.  By the way, I use acetone ONLY for removal of Super Glue.  --  JohnP
Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: Brickguy221 on November 22, 2005, 10:40:13 AM
I used to use Simple Green and it did a respectable job. Also tried some of these home made cleaners listed here. No matter which ones I used (Simple Green included), I could come right behind them with Ultimate Black Magic Rejuvinator and get more dirt/oil off the ball.

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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on November 22, 2005, 10:47:44 AM
I've incorporated lane cleaner with Simple Green and water.  Two parts SG, two parts H20, one part lane cleaner.  No residue and squeaky clean.
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: scotts33 on November 22, 2005, 11:00:57 AM
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I've incorporated lane cleaner with Simple Green and water. Two parts SG, two parts H20, one part lane cleaner. No residue and squeaky clean.
 


230 sounds like a pretty toxic over there east of me.  

Did you bowl Rock River Lanes tourney yet?  If, so how was it?
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: Ragnar on November 22, 2005, 11:09:32 AM
What is this "ball cleaning" of which you speak?  The only time I "clean" a ball is if I'm changing the surface.  Truthfully, I cannot see a difference between a "clean" or an "unclean" ball.  Yeah, if it has belt marks I'll get 'em off, but the Magic Elixir on the ball is all I normally ever need to use.  (I don't wipe it with a towel ever either - unless there is oil dripping.)
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on November 22, 2005, 11:17:20 AM
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I've incorporated lane cleaner with Simple Green and water. Two parts SG, two parts H20, one part lane cleaner. No residue and squeaky clean.
 


230 sounds like a pretty toxic over there east of me.  

Did you bowl Rock River Lanes tourney yet?  If, so how was it?
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We're heading over to Lake Mills for a squad of scratch doubles on this Friday, Oconomowoc for the Brunswick World on 12/4 and trying to fit Rock River in on the Friday after that.  It's gonna be tough this time of year to fit much else in on the weekends.  If RR is anything like last year, it should be a carry fest.  I left 20% of my head at home that night and still shot 680 with five splits.  With a better percentage of cranium retention and a lot less alcohol, I expect to fare quite better!
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: kingpin268 on November 22, 2005, 03:00:55 PM
I've been using a mixture of 75% Simple Green to 25% water on duller balls or balls I want to keep dull and about 50-50 on polished balls. I primarily use it to get off the dirt and oil on the ball but it doesn't take the belt marks or scuffs off the ball. For that I use Neo-Tac's Hook-It, which is a great cleaner btw, a little expensive but well worth it. That take the belt marks off like nothing.

If I trade for a new ball or notice a big drop in performance, I soak the ball in hot water with Simple Green or Dawn, scrub it with the backside of the sponge while soaking, take it out and dry it off post haste. Then I take a generous amount of Neo-Tac's Hook-It and really scrub the ball on a rag. And the ball, had it not had any nicks or scratches, would look brand in new.
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: stanski on November 22, 2005, 10:59:58 PM
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a rule that I honestly don't care to follow.



Well that is your right, however; are you one of the people that complain about the integrity of the sport? That comment is possibly the single most disgusting comment I have seen on this site. Pray that you never have to get on the lanes with me, because I will push it as far as to forcing you to use a house ball.

You are a CHEAT! You are using something in this game that not only do you know is illegal, but you are deliberately breaking the rule. Static weights dont matter either, but I would never let any of my balls that I drill walk out of the shop with excess side weight. People like you are part of the reason that bowling is going down hill. Have a go at me if you want. I tell it how it is.




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You have that right to state your opinion. However, I will respectfully disagree and point you to the fact that by my estimates, at least 20% of the lanes today in my area (and others) do not adhere to the 3 unit minimum rule. I do not bowl leagues at these establishment, but literally hundreds of league bowlers do. I can almost guarantee that in your area, there is an illegal shot at a house somewhere. Go ahead and call me on the acetone, and just like a sandbagger would say, prove it.
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Title: Re: still using simple green?
Post by: Sawuser on November 24, 2005, 01:23:38 PM
Stanski, none of the houses I bowl in adhere to that rule either. Most of them use 10 or more outside the 8 board!  

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You have that right to state your opinion. However, I will respectfully disagree and point you to the fact that by my estimates, at least 20% of the lanes today in my area (and others) do not adhere to the 3 unit minimum rule.
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