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General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: Aloarjr810 on February 15, 2016, 02:19:33 PM

Title: The 500/500/500 finally explained
Post by: Aloarjr810 on February 15, 2016, 02:19:33 PM
I've seen it come up before people asking what was meant by 500/500/500 in some factory surface spec's and nobody was exactly sure what it meant.

So I wrote to Hammer/Ebonite and  asked.

Question:
" in regard to the Factory Finish.
Example:
500, 500, 500, 1000 Abralon with Power House Factory Finish @ 300 RPM Speed

Exactly what does 500, 500, 500 mean? Could you break down the steps for each level? Do 500 3 times? if so after the first 500 wouldn't the other two be redundant? "

Here's the answer I got:

"Hi Al,

The 500, 500, 500 is done on a Haus machine where you put a 500 pad on each of the arms. Then the rest is done on a ball spinner.

Thanks!

Matt Gasn

Ebonite International Inc.

Tech Support Coordinator – Ball products

Mgasn@EBIbowling.com"

So 500/500/500 just means they used a Haus machine which had 3 500 pads on it.

A Haus machine! that's a little tidbit of info they left out on those spec's.

I guess if you just have a spinner, just drop off two of those 500's or 2000's etc whatever if theres 3 of them.
Title: Re: The 500/500/500 finally explained
Post by: milorafferty on February 15, 2016, 02:29:17 PM
So how would that work for 500/2000? Do you just leave one arm empty?

Title: Re: The 500/500/500 finally explained
Post by: Aloarjr810 on February 15, 2016, 02:32:16 PM
So how would that work for 500/2000? Do you just leave one arm empty?



The way that reads you'd leave two arms empty and do the 2000 on the spinner. LOL
Title: Re: The 500/500/500 finally explained
Post by: charlest on February 15, 2016, 02:33:55 PM
That reason is an irrational explanation, inane and misleading.
It's still 500 grit. Calling it 500/500/500 is like saying you ate an apple/apple/..(20 times)/apple because you chewed each bite 20 times.
When they're finished, the final grit should still be 500 grit!
Arrghh!!!!
Title: Re: The 500/500/500 finally explained
Post by: milorafferty on February 15, 2016, 02:37:32 PM
So how would that work for 500/2000? Do you just leave one arm empty?





The way that reads you'd leave two arms empty and do the 2000 on the spinner. LOL

LOL, yea, after going back and reading it again, you are right!

I suspect this Matt person either confused the question or doesn't know what he is talking about.

If you used different grit levels on each arm, the lowest(most abrasive) pad would make the other pads irrelevant, right?
Title: Re: The 500/500/500 finally explained
Post by: Aloarjr810 on February 15, 2016, 02:52:24 PM

LOL, yea, after going back and reading it again, you are right!

I suspect this Matt person either confused the question or doesn't know what he is talking about.

If you used different grit levels on each arm, the lowest(most abrasive) pad would make the other pads irrelevant, right?

What probably happened was someone told the technical writer "we start off sanding with 3- 500 pads on the machine for a 500 grit surface" and so the tech writer just wrote down 500/500/500 and didn't think it through and just left it at that.

Title: Re: The 500/500/500 finally explained
Post by: Dave81644 on February 15, 2016, 09:49:21 PM

I have done that factory tour, there are multiple Haus Machines in a row
so, depending on desired finish, machine #1 has the 500 pads, Machine #2 would have the 2000 pads and so on for how many ever steps they want

I met many people while I was there, every last one of them gave me the impression that they eat, sleep, breathe bowling
I also noticed that many of the employees have been there along time
typically, that tells you something about the company
Jason Couch told me once that the reason he signed there around his rookie year on tour is that everyone knew him when he showed up to visit them, they all thanked him for throwing their stuff on TV.
That was the 1st time he ever went there, been there ever since
Title: Re: The 500/500/500 finally explained
Post by: JustRico on February 15, 2016, 10:09:59 PM
No surface is pure...they're approximations
Title: Re: The 500/500/500 finally explained
Post by: Dave81644 on February 15, 2016, 10:14:56 PM
No surface is pure...they're approximations

i always wondered how many balls went through on 1 pad, how long before they switched them out
1st ball would have more grit than the last one on that pad you would think
Title: Re: The 500/500/500 finally explained
Post by: JustRico on February 15, 2016, 10:27:56 PM
Exactly...