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This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« on: January 01, 2017, 10:45:37 PM »
Okay, My chin dropped. He say's this is a Pro shop resurfacing


Watch as he removes two gouges with a bevel knife (Im hoping he filled them with something before he did that. I looked close no he didn't) , only does 2 sides of the ball because doing 4 sides takes too much time, he then does one side at a time and he uses every grit from P100 grit up to 1500 then polish and then flips it over and does the other side!

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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2017, 11:54:09 AM »
You noticed that to.  At the rate he scrapes & sands covers, that sludge is probably just a couple of days worth.

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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2017, 12:26:45 PM »
Are you sure this isn't a joke??

Oh, it's a joke alright...

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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2017, 12:39:43 PM »
And this is why I own my own spinner.

+1; you got that right. The guy did admit that "if you do it properly, it is too time consuming." Sheesh!!!
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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2017, 03:38:22 PM »
At least he knows the proper way to do it....before doing it different.

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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2017, 10:07:53 PM »
nobody here from the east coast know about this PSO? JIB lanes in Flushing, NY????

There are 25 suckers who like his method..... the two guys I've seen repair divots like this guy no longer operate a proshop. One of the two was caught stealing money from customers and the bowling center. I'm just glad this bowling alley is still open....

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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2017, 02:10:27 PM »
nobody here from the east coast know about this PSO? JIB lanes in Flushing, NY????

This is my PSO.  My observations from over 5 years of service:

1. He is or was IBPSIA certified. From discussions with him, I know that he has attended IBPSIA classes within the last few years. 

2. He has drilled somewhere between 25-30 balls for me.  Only once have I had an issue with a thumb hole where my custom molded thumb slug was lined up slightly off.  He was able to correct this immediately and without much trouble.  Given the success rate, I rate his drilling technique as excellent and fully trust him with drilling my equipment.  For those who are curious, he uses the top of the line Jayhawk setup - it is not a basic/economy drill.

For the gouges/divots he showed you wouldn't even have to do that. You could clear patch it with a few drops of Master Kwik patch (or superglue) in less than minute.

3. I had a gouge in one of my balls (that did not need a full resurfacing) and this is what he did - he patched it, no bevel (the patch even had the right color mix/perfect color blend).  The gouge was fixed perfectly without issue.  The ball looked like it never had the gouge in the first place. 

4. When it comes to picking equipment and drilling, he has no ego and wants to make sure you're happy with fit and layout.  I used to go to another driller in the area who gets upset when you request a specific layout that he does not agree with.  I know what I need and how I want to lay my equipment out.  I do not get attitude for it with my current PSO and he never ever pushes anything on me.  Anytime I ask him to get me a ball with specific specs (pin distance/top weight/etc.) he always delivers in a timely manner (he gets shipments weekly, sometimes more often than that).   


Now specifically speaking to what's in the video:

Like others here, I would be concerned and not too happy with that bevel technique applied to the coverstock of any of my equipment.  He runs a high volume shop, mostly as a one man show.  So it's to cut time, and maybe he's comfortable/feels highly skilled with the technique - I don't know.  I don't resurface my equipment so it is not a real issue for me to get too hung up about.  But I get it...


If anyone has any questions, let me know.

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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2017, 02:41:59 PM »
Sorry man, but this needs to be said.. I hope the days will soon be behind us where people feel they need to jump in a try to defend something that's just basically WRONG, a la that post, Mariah Carey meltdowns, etc... He even said he did it to cut time and it obviously was bad practice with potential to damage the ball.... We can never get better if we don't shine the light of day on these things. I agree with previous posts... Posting that video will have others following him and potentially damage thousands of dollars worth of expensive equipment...

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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2017, 02:48:39 PM »
Sorry man, but this needs to be said.. I hope the days will soon be behind us where people feel they need to jump in a try to defend something that's just basically WRONG, a la that post, Mariah Carey meltdowns, etc... He even said he did it to cut time and it obviously was bad practice with potential to damage the ball.... We can never get better if we don't shine the light of day on these things. I agree with previous posts... Posting that video will have others following him and potentially damage thousands of dollars worth of expensive equipment...

Can you please read my post - actually read it all the way through.  I am not trying to defend the video.  Please read it.  Seriously.

That is all.

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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2017, 02:55:21 PM »
nobody here from the east coast know about this PSO? JIB lanes in Flushing, NY????

This is my PSO.  My observations from over 5 years of service:

1. He is or was IBPSIA certified. From discussions with him, I know that he has attended IBPSIA classes within the last few years. 

2. He has drilled somewhere between 25-30 balls for me.  Only once have I had an issue with a thumb hole where my custom molded thumb slug was lined up slightly off.  He was able to correct this immediately and without much trouble.  Given the success rate, I rate his drilling technique as excellent and fully trust him with drilling my equipment.  For those who are curious, he uses the top of the line Jayhawk setup - it is not a basic/economy drill.

For the gouges/divots he showed you wouldn't even have to do that. You could clear patch it with a few drops of Master Kwik patch (or superglue) in less than minute.

3. I had a gouge in one of my balls (that did not need a full resurfacing) and this is what he did - he patched it, no bevel (the patch even had the right color mix/perfect color blend).  The gouge was fixed perfectly without issue.  The ball looked like it never had the gouge in the first place. 

4. When it comes to picking equipment and drilling, he has no ego and wants to make sure you're happy with fit and layout.  I used to go to another driller in the area who gets upset when you request a specific layout that he does not agree with.  I know what I need and how I want to lay my equipment out.  I do not get attitude for it with my current PSO and he never ever pushes anything on me.  Anytime I ask him to get me a ball with specific specs (pin distance/top weight/etc.) he always delivers in a timely manner (he gets shipments weekly, sometimes more often than that).   


Now specifically speaking to what's in the video:

Like others here, I would be concerned and not too happy with that bevel technique applied to the coverstock of any of my equipment.  He runs a high volume shop, mostly as a one man show.  So it's to cut time, and maybe he's comfortable/feels highly skilled with the technique - I don't know.  I don't resurface my equipment so it is not a real issue for me to get too hung up about.  But I get it...


If anyone has any questions, let me know.

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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2017, 03:01:52 PM »
I ran into a clown with this kind of thought process while in El Paso during last years Open.

I had just bought a Lane #1 DIFFerence(Yea, yea, I know, but didn't even pay $200 for it). The second time it ever went down a lane, not the second time it was used, I mean the second throw...EVER... was at the same house where the BTM was being held. It came back when a huge abrasion mark that was about 1/4" deep and 1 1/2" long. Just outside the track, but it still pissed me off in a major way.

The local pro shop clown was there watching one of his buddies bowl and notice I was looking at the ball and decided to offer to "fix it" for me. I told him I was bowling the Open the next day and he said it would be done before then. Then I said, I don't want it sanded down. He said he would only sand the spot where the abrasion was.

I took my ball and left.
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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2017, 03:08:32 PM »
I ran into a clown with this kind of thought process while in El Paso during last years Open.

I had just bought a Lane #1 DIFFerence(Yea, yea, I know, but didn't even pay $200 for it). The second time it ever went down a lane, not the second time it was used, I mean the second throw...EVER... was at the same house where the BTM was being held. It came back when a huge abrasion mark that was about 1/4" deep and 1 1/2" long. Just outside the track, but it still pissed me off in a major way.

The local pro shop clown was there watching one of his buddies bowl and notice I was looking at the ball and decided to offer to "fix it" for me. I told him I was bowling the Open the next day and he said it would be done before then. Then I said, I don't want it sanded down. He said he would only sand the spot where the abrasion was.

I took my ball and left.

It would be even more asymmetrical.   ;D  :P
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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2017, 03:19:46 PM »
I ran into a clown with this kind of thought process while in El Paso during last years Open.

I had just bought a Lane #1 DIFFerence(Yea, yea, I know, but didn't even pay $200 for it). The second time it ever went down a lane, not the second time it was used, I mean the second throw...EVER... was at the same house where the BTM was being held. It came back when a huge abrasion mark that was about 1/4" deep and 1 1/2" long. Just outside the track, but it still pissed me off in a major way.

The local pro shop clown was there watching one of his buddies bowl and notice I was looking at the ball and decided to offer to "fix it" for me. I told him I was bowling the Open the next day and he said it would be done before then. Then I said, I don't want it sanded down. He said he would only sand the spot where the abrasion was.

I took my ball and left.

It would be even more asymmetrical.   ;D :P

Now you just KNOW that ain't possible. It was already maxed out. Unless of course, there were more boards added to the lane...


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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2017, 04:59:45 PM »
"Then I said, I don't want it sanded down. He said he would only sand the spot where the abrasion was."

I hope he meant that he would plug the gouge, then cut down and sand only the area where the plug was.  --  JohnP

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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2017, 05:01:52 PM »
"Then I said, I don't want it sanded down. He said he would only sand the spot where the abrasion was."

I hope he meant that he would plug the gouge, then cut down and sand only the area where the plug was.  --  JohnP

Nope, he was just going to sand out the "bad spot" as he called it.
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Re: This is a Pro shop resurfacing?? (video)
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2017, 05:16:19 PM »
I can't even with this thread.