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bowler851

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shell thickness
« on: March 30, 2011, 05:23:45 AM »
What percentage of  ball life is linked to cover thickness, will a ball  with a thinner cover (all other things equal) die sooner then if it had a thicker cover.


 

kidlost2000

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Re: shell thickness
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2011, 02:27:24 PM »
Life of the ball is tied to cover maintenance more then thickness. (in terms of life of the ball reaction.)

 

If you extract the oil and clean your equipment regularly then you will have a like new bowling ball reaction. Maintenance is the key.


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Re: shell thickness
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2011, 02:12:55 AM »

 



kidlost2000 wrote on 30.03.2011 2:27 PM:
Life of the ball is tied to cover maintenance more then thickness. (in terms of life of the ball reaction.)

 

If you extract the oil and clean your equipment regularly then you will have a like new bowling ball reaction. Maintenance is the key.
+1. I'd rather worry about the ball's integrity, e .g. concerning temperature changes which cause tension between shell and filler. With ever more porous coverstocks, the thin shells add to the ball cracking problem. But concerning a ball's performance, it is rather a matter of maintenance than cover thickness.

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Re: shell thickness
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2011, 08:18:17 AM »
I agree about shell thickness being a minor factor for ball life. Maintenance of surface is key. And in my experience extracting oil once or twice per season helps, too.
 
I know less to nothing about the causes for shells cracking. What makes a thinner shell crack easier? How thin is too thin?
 
 


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dizzyfugu

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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2011, 01:02:32 AM »
The shell is only one part of the picture - but if manufacturers save money through less material on the outer shell, they'd better make sure the overall integrity of a ball is kept up. The thinnes covers I have seen so far are only 0.5" thin, while older balls are 0.75" or even thicker, even massive without a filler. Modern covers are also more porous than older stuff, so you really have less material on the outside.

 

One can argue that performance is not affected, but IMHO durability has declined a lot - probably intentionally. I know players who blindly buy the new high end stuff every year, and for them this marketing strategy works fine.

Personally, I like to keep balls which "work" for me and find a place in my arsenal, and I have (after cracking...) become rather cautious. For me a thin shell is a BIG argument not to buy a ball.

 

Besides, add holes, or some poorly mixed material zones, and the potential for a crack is IMO much bigger than with a thicker-shelled piece. When balls come to Europe via container, they even crack on the way - without holes being punched up.


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Re: shell thickness
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2011, 03:31:46 AM »
Thanks for the post, Dizzy. I wonder how manufacturers make certain that the ingredients they use in the making of a bowling ball are stable. And how they determine what thickness is enough for a given coverstock. And didn't Lane Masters/Legends marketing a few years back emphasize that their use of urethane as filler made for durable bowling balls?
 


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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2011, 05:06:10 AM »
Old school balls (like the urethane Hammers from Faball) used to be massive - and if you get hands today on such a ball, you understand what durable means. Lanemasters (and I suppose original AZO before the plant went to LM) usd to have massive balls, too, until some years ago they also started with filler balls in their "Strike" line, calling these mid range pieces. Anyway, I think  have never heard anyone complain about old LM balls lacking integrity... but I suppose that the all-coverstock production is simply too costly, esp. when you can use a genric filler material that just differs by denity to attain the desired ball weights.

 

Sometimes you find massive balls these days - I recently got hands on a (Storm-built) Azo Radical Pearl - due to its huge core it has no filler inside, too. Too early to say something about overall integrity on this piece, but I have become really careful concerning thin-shelled balls. I found that my RX-1 also has a very thin shell, curious how long it takes until it cracks. It is my newest ball, but I'd bet that it will be the first one to crack somehow...

 

This is also not to bash any manufacturer - it is a marketing decision how a ball is actually produced. But for me the thin-shelled balls generally leave a bad taste in my mouth, because I cannot shake off the feeling that costs are cut on customers' backs.


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Re: shell thickness
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2011, 07:09:45 AM »
Maybe I am lucky but I have had every Visionary ball manufactured and never had one crack.  I can also say the same about LM/L though I have only had about 6 of their balls. 

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