BallReviews
General Category => Coverstock Preparation => Topic started by: agroves on March 04, 2009, 04:30:19 AM
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I haven't been comfortable with my ball reaction pretty much all season. Our house tends to play slick. I've tried abralon and scotchbrite pads, but it still didn't give me the ball reaction I wanted.
I was chatting with the wife about this and we got to talking about the last time I felt comfortable with the reaction. The conclusion was the sandpaper was big difference.
So, I headed down to Schucks auto parts and picked up a variety pack of paper. I hit my new Momentum Swing with 800 grit and it completely changed my ball reaction and the strength of the ball. It looked similar in finish to the box surface but didn't act even close to the same. In box condition, I was sliding 18, hitting 9 to 5 with the Momemtum swing. After sanding it, I was sliding 22 hitting 11 to 8. Before the end of practice I was two boards deeper on the approach and lane.(review in the columbia forum)
I don't know what the difference is, but the ball reaction is completely different and overall just better for me.
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Edited on 3/5/2009 4:34 AM
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I too have found that I get a Better Reaction with wet/dry Sandpaper than I do with abralon pads. I love them, and they are conveniently at my local hardware/auto store
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IMHO - Abralon leaves the same spacing between the peaks and valleys as wet/dry sandpaper, but the peaks and valleys aren't as deep with abralon...
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I also went back to silicon carbide paper with better results.
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Andrew,
Do you know if the sandpaper is 800 grit or P800 grit?
Many current sandpapers use the "P" or FEPA rating system.
It ususally indicates that on the back. P800 grit is about 400 grit US. So there could a big difference in the surface of the ball. If you have high ball speed, that difference could what you need.
(Your profile says 17 mph Quibica. Quibica usually measures at the back end of the lane. 17 mph at the backend is pretty fast. So you may need more surface than you've been getting.)
FWIW:
800 grit is equivalent to the light grey nylon pad.
400 grit is roughly equivalent to the maroon nylon pad.
Just a thought. ANd congratulations.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Edited on 3/4/2009 7:16 PM
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I like sandpaper when sanding a ball 1500 grit or less an abralon 2000 an above.Sandpaper works better for me on the Pba patterns too
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Charlest, thanks for the info. I don't have the paper in front of me, but I'm gonna guess it is P800.
Either way, the reaction is mucho better and the ball is not burning up. I shot 805 for the last 3 games tonight in our scratch league. I'll probably use the scotchbrite/abralon pads when I plan on polishing the ball.
I updated my profile as well. I changed a few things and my ball speed appears to be alittle lower but it could just be the ball hooking more thru the "trap". Last night, my ball speed was in the 15.5 to 16 range.
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Edited on 3/5/2009 4:37 AM
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I sure might be blind, but I just looked at 4 different types of sandpaper I currently have on hand. The brands are Norton, 3M and some I picked up at Harbor Freight. I do not see a "P" on any of them so I am assuming that they are all rated on the US scale. The 400 grit would be approx. P800. The 500 grit would be approx P1000 and the 600 grit would be approx P1200. Do I have that right? And I am also wondering, where might I find grits higher than that in paper at a local outlet?
Thanks,
Lon
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Lon,
Here's P1500, P2000 and P2500 grit:
http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=11004&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=1217&iSubCat=1225&iProductID=11004
You can also get a bunch at www.supergrit.com
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I personally use and like these...the red ones.
http://www.supergrit.com/products/products_sheets-brownredao.asp#red
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charlest, then am I correct in my understanding that these "P" paper grits would be comparable to the grits called out by ball manufactures? I know that most of them use abralon instead of paper, but these would be approx the same grit for quite abit less money.
Thanks again.
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I go to the local NAPA store. They have all grits of wet paper. I guess any parts store that sells to body shops would have it.
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charlest, then am I correct in my understanding that these "P" paper grits would be comparable to the grits called out by ball manufactures? I know that most of them use abralon instead of paper, but these would be approx the same grit for quite abit less money.
Thanks again.
I would not say that. I know Ebonite-made balls use strictly Abralon so theirs are "P" rated/graded. Unless they say, "xxxx grit Abralon", I would not assume anything.
Look at the fuss made in the Lane#1 forum over the Dynamo debacle. Their website said 4000 grit Abralon. It turned out to be wrong. It has a 1000 grit Abralon surface.
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