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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 10, 2005, 11:29:19 AM

Title: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 10, 2005, 11:29:19 AM: Ok, got 4 new balls, and I have some ideas for layouts but I wanted to get some opinions.

Warp Zone: 1-2" pin, 3.2 ounces top weight. I was thinking pin under ring, cg in palm to keep the flare down. (cg in palms kep the flare down right?) I want this to be a hard arc/control ball.

Nemesis: 2-3" pin, 3.1 ounces top weight. I was thinking pin under bridge, cg swung right a bit. I want this also to be a hard arc, but want it to wait till a little farther down the lane.

Intense Inferno: 2-3" pin, 3.0 ounces top weight. I was thinking pin over ring, cg stacked, or even swung out with a weight hole for skid/flip. SKID FLIP! I want this ball to be used what its ment for, to go long and turn hard.

Chrome/Yellow Power Groove: 2-3" pin, 3.3 ounces top weight. I was thinking another skid/flip drilling. Pin over ring maybe? I want to try a pin over bridge to see what it does, but Im not sure. My PAP is about 5 3/4 over, 3/4 up. (last time I checked) What type of reaction would a pin over bridge, cg either stacked, or swung a bit right to under the ring finger give me? Same thing, I want it to be skid/flip.

ON EDIT: I went and figured out my PAP, and it appears to be about 5 1/4 over, and about 1/4 up. Not sure what type of tracking this is? (high, low, medium???) But thats what I came up with. Actually it turned out the ball I was throwing has a weighthole RIGHT on my PAP, which is a total coincedence because the driller didnt know mine lol. So yea, knowing that, can you give me some drill suggestions? I added on to the end of each ball what I want it to do. Please guys, Im going tommorow to get these drilled, need help!
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Edited on 1/12/2005 8:06 PM
Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: a_ak57 on January 10, 2005, 07:50:11 PM: Well technically the pin over ring cg stacked etc. doesn't really matter, it's the pin/Cg to PAP differences. So i think you should probably figure those out (what you want that is). Bk, when did you last check your pap anyways?
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- Andy

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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 10, 2005, 07:51:21 PM: Couple months ago, but I still think its the same as mentioned.
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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: a_ak57 on January 10, 2005, 08:05:59 PM: quote:
The Cg isn't important on the Warp Zone, the PSA is.

Since your going to use the PG for dry, you might want to put the pin below your middle finger(if you don't track to high).
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Hows BrunsJoe Sound?

He does track high. I think he said about 5 3/4.
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- Andy

Viva la Brunswick Nation!!
Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: stanski on January 10, 2005, 08:06:37 PM: Where you swing the cg does not matter as much as the distance the pin is from the pap and the distance above the midline.
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stanski
Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 10, 2005, 08:15:53 PM: quote:
If he does track too high to put the there, then hes gonna have some fun with the power groove, those things HOOK! you can put the pin above your middle finger, but it will probably store a TOn of energy, and be really really strong on the backends.
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Brunswick 04-05
Not your typical Lefty...
Hows BrunsJoe Sound?
Thats EXACTLY what I want! I just dont think I have THAT many revs to get a negative drilled ball to snap. I always thought negative gives you a more mellow reaction?
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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 10, 2005, 08:18:00 PM: and I dont track HIGH, but normal.
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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 10, 2005, 08:18:58 PM: I think my track has lowered since I last checked it so maybe I will go bowling this week before I drill anything and check my PAP.
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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: a_ak57 on January 10, 2005, 08:20:19 PM: quote:
and I dont track HIGH, but normal.
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16 years old, and proud of it! Still not mature either!

Well that means your given PAP is off. Because 5 3/4 over is a high tracker.
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- Andy

Viva la Brunswick Nation!!
Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 12, 2005, 07:09:34 PM: Ok guys, TTT, need help before tommorow. Im going to get these drilled tommorow so yea, HELP!
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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: stanski on January 12, 2005, 07:15:21 PM: just because the pin is negative means nothing, I know a few guys with 4 inch over paps that have to place the pin negative to get it to be 5 inch pin to pap without putting it way high.
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stanski
Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: a_ak57 on January 12, 2005, 07:16:35 PM: Damn you, you're getting your stuff drilled before me.

Anways........

Warp: Just do a label leverage drill. Those are arcy and i think you said you wanted an arcing motion. Maybe PSA halfway between thumb and VAL?

Nemesis: I suppose a 4x4 for this ball.

Intense: Try to make it like 5x5 or something.

Groove: Do a 5x4 or something with this one.
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- Andy

Degero diurnitas, Brunswick Natio!!
Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 12, 2005, 07:39:29 PM: How do I find the PSA on the warp zone?
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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 12, 2005, 07:42:37 PM: And what kind of track is that? High, or low, or in between?
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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 12, 2005, 07:43:39 PM: and whats a VAL?
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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: a_ak57 on January 12, 2005, 07:43:44 PM: PSA should be marked i would think.

Your track? Seems somewhat high. I think "high" tracks are 5" over and more or something.

VAL= vertical axis line. The vertical line that goes through your PAP.
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- Andy

Degero diurnitas, Brunswick Natio!!

Edited on 1/12/2005 8:41 PM
Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 12, 2005, 07:47:38 PM: I think I found the PSA, its just a little white dot correct? Like the cg?
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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 12, 2005, 07:54:13 PM: ok guys and girls (if any girls are posting, just being PC lol), you have to realize I am a complete IDIOT when it comes to the actual drilling of balls. If my PAP is 5 1/4 over, and 1/4 up, what does it make these drills? I need actual terms. (pin over *insert finger*, cg to the right of *whatever* psa *wherever it should be* in comparison to thumb/fingers wutever) PLEASE! Im dumb.
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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: BrunsNick on January 12, 2005, 08:19:55 PM: No No No, better yet, send them to me for $20! </a_ak>
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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 12, 2005, 08:33:34 PM: Ok so how does this look:

Warp Zone-pin under ring, cg right with a weighthole
Nemesis-??still not sure??
Intense- Pin over bridge, cg out right
Power Groove-Pin over bridge, cg stacked.

Nemesis will probably be pin under ring, cg stacked. Sound ok?
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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: a_ak57 on January 12, 2005, 08:43:40 PM: Sorry nick, i'm takin them, since i wouldn't even have to pay for shipping! Hey Dan, lets say i give you.....EIGHTY DOLLARS!!!!! for the whole set! How about it?!

PS- Nick the offer is still on the table. I pay shipping and give you a CRISP $20 bill, in exchange for one of those FREE balls you get. Come on now, it's win win. You make 20 bucks, and you get to see a smile on your best friend's face. [thumbs up w/ sappy grin]
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- Andy

Degero diurnitas, Brunswick Natio!!

Edited on 1/12/2005 9:44 PM
Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: TheBowlingKid25 on January 12, 2005, 08:58:57 PM: This isnt in the wanted/for sale/trade section guys! KEEP IT TO YOURSELVES! I need thoughts on drilling. Would a pin over bridge drilling be snappy for me?
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Title: Re: 4 new balls to drill. Need layout suggetions.
Post by: a_ak57 on January 12, 2005, 09:20:38 PM: Ironhorse= suggester of the good layouts
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- Andy

Degero diurnitas, Brunswick Natio!!