Another short pin thread!

[lilpossum1]

With all of this talk of short pin layouts being “better than urethane,” it brought up a few questions in my mind. First off, would it be more advantageous in any ways to drill either symmetrical or asymmetrical over the other? Would it weaken down, say, a crux prime or gravity evolve  enough to use it on a house with wooden lanes with shoddy, but not necessarily dry, lane conditions. I’m wondering if a short pin SPEC ball would blend inconsistent back ends.

Second, Mo advises against pin down symmetrical balls on house shots. Wouldn’t a short pin keep the pin lower also unless somebody has a PAP higher on the VAL? Why not advise against short pin layouts on symmetrical balls?

[ignitebowling]

Mo hating pin down has nothing to do with reality.

On a shorter pin layout you want to keep the pin even with the ring finger or just above if drawing a line from the ring finger to your pap.

Surface is still king and if bowling on wood id imagine for most a high performance ball is going to still be too much trying to play straighter angles.

So when you say just above, do you mean above the line from ring finger to pap?

Yes.  In line with or above that line from the ring finger to your PAP.

[thundercat23]

With all the short pin talk, what balls would make good balls for this layout?

[TWOHAND834]

With all the short pin talk, what balls would make good balls for this layout?

With my higher rev rate; I much prefer entry level to mid performance symmetrics because at the end of the day; I need length and optimum control.  Roughest surface I have ever used with this layout is one ball at 3000.  2 other balls I had with this layout were 4000 plus Factory Finish.  I have had success using all 3 during league and various tournaments.

[thundercat23]

So are we talking like an !Q Tour or a Hustle Ink?

[TWOHAND834]

So are we talking like an !Q Tour or a Hustle Ink?

You can do either one honestly.  But it also has to do with lane condition and your specs.  You can do the IQ if you have faster ball speed and there is enough oil in the heads.  If the pattern is lighter or shorter, then the Hustle would be the best bet.  I have an Arson Low Flare Solid at 3000 currently and have had a Track 300C at 4000 and polish.  Each ball had their respective spots on when I could use them and had success with both.