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Hex017

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Forward pitch...looking for help.
« on: June 17, 2006, 02:57:35 PM »
After working with my coach for a while we both figured out that my grip was not right. So I went to my driller, had my span shortened on everything and went from 1/16th reverse(I think?) to 1/8 forward in the thumb. It felt really good at first, so I had it done to everything. After bowling over 20 games this weekend though my thumb has given me some problems. I'm having some trouble getting out of the ball cleanly, I do spin the ball to a degree, and I tend to rub on the left side of my thumb exiting the ball(left, nail side up). Also, my thumb has started to blister and become really sore(20 games is not a lot for me btw), the ball feels like razors while hanging onto it. Maybe I should just have everything beveled a lot and sanded out, or maybe I should back off to 0 in the thumb? The only thing I do want to note is I left my plastic ball with the reverse and now I basically drop it, so I do see the effects of the forward pitch. Anyway, what do you think I should do?
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Re: Forward pitch...looking for help.
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2006, 11:41:21 PM »
Definitely use the same thumb slugs in each ball if you want to compare apples to apples. Also, know the difference between urethane and vinyl slugs. Urethane are slicker, vinyl coarser.

I would strongly suggest you have your driller install a switch grip system. This will allow you to experiment to your hearts content without redrilling each ball with what you THINK is the perfect pitch only to find out a few games later that it isn't. I went through years of redrilling a dozen balls at a time whenever I thought I'd come upon the perfect pitch combination. The fact is, what feels good now may not in a few days, weeks or months. The switch grip will allow you to drill just ONE inner sleeve (a removable thumb slug) that will fit in all your balls fitted with a switch grip outter sleeve. The beauty is that if you drill the hole in your ball to accomadate the outter sleeve at ZERO PITCH it will allow you to alter the inner sleeve pitches up to 1/4" lateral, foreward or reverse.

With the above stratagy you could drill several inner sleeves at different pitch combinations (as well as sizes) that can be used over and over again. I use 1/4 left and 1/4 reverse when I want to get out of the ball sooner with maximum axis tilt. I use 0/0 pitch for my normal shot and 0/1/4 forward on those days when I want to go straight through the ball and have my thumb come out a bit later (or to totally relax my arm swing).

The switch grip will save you money in the long run, reduce the need for tape and provide many options for tweaking your pitches (and even your span up to about 3/16ths of an inch).

One more thing, it's not unusual nor necessarily an indication of a poor fit or improper pitches to develop blisters initially (and I stress, initially). Give those sore spots a few days to heal and your thumb a chance to toughen up in the areas that are prone to friction. If blisters keep reappearing then, yes, your driller needs to adjust your pitches and/or span.

Luckyzzzzz

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Re: Forward pitch...looking for help.
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2006, 02:14:26 PM »
Just a little note about bevelling.  I got a used ball that I wanted to use as is with as little alteration to it as possible.  It had the reverse pitch to it, and I had the razor feeling that has been described.  I had a fairly meaty base on my thumb, so I normally need that smoothed out anyway.  I bevelled the front of the thumb hole to get rid of the sharp edge, and actually wound up taking off too much.  I noticed when the "ramp" that I had formed at the front of the hole started folding over the skin on the base of my thumb during my release, and ripped a dime-sized circle of skin off the base of my thumb, almost into the palm.  

So, basically, I'm trying to say the bevelling can only do so much before you need to change the pitch.

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Re: Forward pitch...looking for help.
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2006, 04:41:08 PM »
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This conversation needs someone to explain how to hold onto a ball.   Why don't one of you gurus explain the process of  "setting the thumb" or
"fishhooking" the fingers.   There is a method of "holding onto" the ball.


Can you explain the fishhooking the fingers in detail?
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