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mrspare

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About the 3"3/8 position
« on: June 03, 2004, 03:12:31 PM »
Hello to all,
This question is in my mind quite long-time ago but I do not have the answer. Every body say that when we drill a ball with 3 3/8 the ball will have a maximum flare because this position is a 45°. Mathematicaly, I can’t see this.
Just visionary 3 kinds of bowlers :
A full roller, the track of the ball will be very big and the 45° could not be at 3"3/8 of the Pap.
A Semi roller, perhaps for this kind of bowlers the leverage is in this location.
And for the spinner, the Track is very small and also the 45° point can’t be at 3"3/8 from the Pap.
Please, explain me because, it’s so confuse in my mind.
Sorry for my poor English.  
MrSpare

 

pnj1967

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Re: About the 3"3/8 position
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2004, 06:21:21 AM »







mrspare

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Re: About the 3"3/8 position
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2004, 06:50:26 AM »
Thanks pnj1967, I already seen these sites and also read a lot of treats from LuckyLefty & others gurus in this site. I agree with the degree system but for the conversion degree : inches I can't explain it for myself.
In my mind, a 3"3/8 correspond of the 45° for some kind of bowlers and perhaps 4"xx or 2"xx correspond of the 45° for others kind of bowlers ?
While everybody say that the leverage point is 3"3/8
Help me to clarify this please.
MrSpare

JohnP

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Re: About the 3"3/8 position
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2004, 06:52:44 PM »
mrspare -- When the pin is located at 3 3/8" from the PAP, it is the core that is angled at 45 degrees.  You are thinking of a 45 degree drilling layout, which is a completely different thing.  If the pin is on the PAP, the core lays horizontal, or at 0 degrees.  If the pin is 6 3/4" from the PAP, the core lays vertical, or at 90 degrees.  When the pin is 3 3/8" from the PAP, the core is at a 45 degree angle to the first ball track, which is a very unstable position, resulting in the high flare.  --  JohnP

mrspare

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Re: About the 3"3/8 position
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2004, 02:19:34 AM »
Thanks to all, I’ll try to clarify my idea, a 0° is a position of pin in pap, I think that we all are ok with this. A 90° is a position the plan perpendicular to the axis and pass through the center of the ball, am I right? (in this way, the distance of any where from the circonference of this plan to Pap is 6 3/4. but the first track of the bowler do not always be at this distance. We can take an example of a big spinner, his ball track shall be very little and very far from his pap. I’m always confused. 90° is the position of the pin in first track or the pin position in the imaginary ring perpendicular to the axis and pass through the center
MrSpare