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Title: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: JJ on October 04, 2014, 11:34:37 AM
I am keeping an eye out for a 14lb ball to have a Rico drilling put on it for a buddy of mine. What is the best pin and top weight for a Rico drilling? Thanks
 JJ
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: JustRico on October 05, 2014, 06:20:59 PM
I like to go with a pin distance half the persons ring finger span this puts the CG next to the thumb...top weight in the 2.5-3oz range to allow variance with the weight hole
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: northface28 on October 05, 2014, 06:33:52 PM
I like to go with a pin distance half the persons ring finger span this puts the CG next to the thumb...top weight in the 2.5-3oz range to allow variance with the weight hole

CG doesn't matter, who cares where it goes.
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: JustRico on October 05, 2014, 06:41:49 PM
Wow cool I have an admirer...
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: 2handedrook12 on October 05, 2014, 07:04:08 PM
I'm with northface. I'm sure the cg doesn't matter. I mean it's not like justrico invented the layout.
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: JustRico on October 05, 2014, 07:21:26 PM
Gawd knows I don't know sh*t...there are plenty of smarter individuals than me that will make sure to tell you that...
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: xrayjay on October 05, 2014, 08:24:50 PM
I saw on tv PDW use the Rico a few years back. Then I saw CB use the Rico not too long ago...I guess it's pretty good layout....

Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: northface28 on October 05, 2014, 08:29:00 PM
Gawd knows I don't know sh*t...there are plenty of smarter individuals than me that will make sure to tell you that...

I used to really respect you, but now you just come across as jilted, bitter, former "industry" employee. Almost like a scorned female, not a good look. Point is this, don't hoot and holler CGs don't matter and come in this thread and mention CG placement as if it does matter. Don't piss on me and tell its raining. I don't care who you are.
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: JustRico on October 05, 2014, 08:29:42 PM
And there you have it 😎
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: JustRico on October 05, 2014, 08:32:47 PM
And btw as long as there is a USBC rule stating CGs matter then when you lay a ball out you should probably respect that factor...
And I still work in the industry so you are a plethora of misinformation
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: Impending Doom on October 05, 2014, 08:59:28 PM
CG matters only for placement of the extra hole.
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: kidlost2000 on October 05, 2014, 09:46:15 PM
Obviously by northface28 post recently he doesn't know what the cg is or what cg no matter refers to.

If you take the little effort to learn that then you may actually be able to comment on it with some understanding. Otherwise you are "that guy" or maybe that is your thing.
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: northface28 on October 05, 2014, 11:22:50 PM
CG matters only for placement of the extra hole.

Seems like it "matters" when the two smartest guys in the room (JustRico and kid lost) want it to matter. Either something matters or it doesn't, not it "matters" to suit my argument and does not otherwise.

I work in finance, so all this stuff is like saying decimal points don't matter, until it matters. Make sense? All the dynamic duo says is "cg doesn't matter" except for this and that, otherwise, it does not. Semantics? Maybe, but don't say something doesn't matter, when it clearly does.
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: Good Times Good Times on October 06, 2014, 06:41:56 AM
Sounds like we need to define "matters"....
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: kidlost2000 on October 06, 2014, 07:48:17 AM
Northface28 I will take you at face value and being sincere in your lack of understanding in what we are referring to when saying "cg no matter"

Here is a great video that talks about why this came about. USBC planned on making major changes to bowling rules that would have made a lot of equipment no longer usable in league play.(illegal) It was USBCs attempt to slow down the increase in scores due to technology in equipment.

If you watch the full 6:59 video you will see what it is referring to when saying "cg no matter".


For additional notes there still many that believe that the cg location alone is a large shift in the bowling ball core and has an affect on how the ball rolls, how much it hooks, ect. USBC later conducted its own research and came to the same conclusions as Brunswick. USBC was trying to slow down the bowling balls technology boost that had already affected the scores in bowling.
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: JustRico on October 06, 2014, 08:00:20 AM
I'm not any of this matters to him I think he just enjoyed , amidst hiding behind a screen name, attacking and slamming me...
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: kidlost2000 on October 06, 2014, 08:07:05 AM
was he Shim Wrecker in a previous life........
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: JohnP on October 06, 2014, 04:19:45 PM
To add to the video Kidlost gave you, the Rico layout requires a large balance hole in the thumb positive quadrant, so in order for the final static weights to meet USBC's requirements the ball needs to have thumb weight and positive side weight before the balance hole is drilled.  Thus, the cg needs to be to the right of the thumb hole (for a right hander).  --  JohnP
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: JustRico on October 06, 2014, 04:34:06 PM
Actually by using lower starting top weight, you do not need a large weight to start...you can start with 7/8" bit X 2.5" deep and adjust the flare by going up in size (1/8" increments) and depth
Title: Re: Best pin & top weight for Rico drilling
Post by: JohnP on October 07, 2014, 03:54:08 PM
I stand corrected on the "large" part of the balance hole.  --  JohnP