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J_w73

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Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« on: February 21, 2013, 11:43:09 AM »
Anybody know anything about this fitting technique. Looks like it is just an offset thumb. (And I know, by definition of how to measure a grip layout, an offset thumb doesn't technically exist.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX6-k7XC97s

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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2013, 12:19:22 AM »
pin.chaser,

I too have changed to the TriGrip. Drilled 4 balls last weekend that Bill Hall laid out.I agree with everything you posted. I have been bowling for 39 years and have tried every grip known to man. This grip for me fits my hand and comes off so smooth. Bill has been working on this for at least 5 yrs, it is now perfect. All i can say to everyone who has doubts give it a try.

Pat Patterson

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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2013, 01:10:11 AM »
My concern is if I travel afar and loss my equipment via lost airline luggage, stolen or damaged, how will I get my equipment drilled if no one where I am at is versed in the drilling technique, then I'm screwed. 

Also, how many professional bowlers do you think are using this technique or still using there "Old T-Grip" and cashing in every tournament they bowl in while we continue to fight a THS with this new fitting fad.
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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2013, 02:02:45 AM »
Pat

Despite what you may have previously read, once you have the trigrip fit you like a normal tgrip measurement will duplicate it. And any ball driller can drill it albeit they will look at you funny. Just hand them your spec sheet.

I agree this is new and might be a fad or it might revolutionize how to fit balls. It's your call if you want to be on the front end or backend. If your like me I want to understand it and try it. I'm not converting everything I own, going at it slow. But this shows me the potential that there may be a way I can get better.
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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2013, 12:52:48 PM »
Ok, that all makes sense.  I still don't know if it's worth 200 bucks, but at least we've gotten to the heart of the thing.  So you're basically paying for his knowledge, experience and the resulting technique that makes his fitting method the easiest to execute?  I also don't doubt that you wouldn't arrive at a Tri-Grip fit using T-grip standard measurements, I was just more challenging the statement that you couldn't mathematically calculate a conversion, or that you couldn't fit someone well without using it. 
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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #50 on: September 28, 2013, 01:23:40 PM »
I've been fitting (fairly successful I might add) for over 25-30 yrs on every level...I'm pretty sure I can fit fairly well without it thank you
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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #51 on: September 28, 2013, 03:19:59 PM »
Rico no doubt. It's not for you or your clients ... It's not for everyone.
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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #52 on: September 28, 2013, 04:51:37 PM »
I'm not even sure what that translates too...
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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #53 on: September 28, 2013, 05:02:54 PM »
Actually after viewing bowling balls on that system it appears your only changing the pitches. Everything else is very standard. Interesting
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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #54 on: September 28, 2013, 05:35:45 PM »
Changing pitches or where you measure them from? 

Actually after viewing bowling balls on that system it appears your only changing the pitches. Everything else is very standard. Interesting
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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #55 on: September 28, 2013, 06:26:57 PM »
Not sure I'm not buying the koolaide. I have a pic I can post tomorrow that may help
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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #56 on: September 28, 2013, 08:21:41 PM »
First, I had the honor to be able to have my hand and grip looked at who I consider the best "guru" ever, Bill Taylor. Although he asked about my lack of bevel in the fingers, it was spot on.

Second, I talked to a friend about it, told him my current span and pitches, and he throws out at me "7/16 left, 0 f/w in the thumb" when my current pitches are 1/4 fw and 1/8 right.

Now, I'm not ignorant to fitting practices. Sounds a bit radical. Am I saying I won't try it? Not at all. I would plug and redrill something just as a test bed. But it sounds awfully off the wall.

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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2013, 06:07:46 AM »
Going off of speculation of what we have seen and read is a lot of talk about there being an offset or a dropped finger ect ect

When you look at the pics then take into consideration something my brother pointed out to me it becomes obvious it is just a possible change in pitches. Everything else will be the same. You will continue to lay the ball out like you always did but use different pitches for a better feel.

Look at pic one and the ball mapped out on the system. and how it looks pretty unusual. Then look at the pic in the next post.

…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #58 on: September 29, 2013, 06:10:36 AM »
Now look at the red lines marking the balls grip. Once you measure your new pitches on this line your back to laying the ball out as normal, and with the new pitches measured off this line. I am guessing that is part of what is taught after everything is said in done.

So even though it looks different it really isn't. It appears to be a different way of measuring and fitting obviously.

…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #59 on: September 29, 2013, 09:09:58 AM »
Sorry Your lines are not even close to the system

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Re: Bill Hall Tri-Grip fitting system
« Reply #60 on: September 29, 2013, 03:34:39 PM »
No need to apologize its not my ball. I'm not the proshop who is using the system.  I just used their pic to demonstrate what we've heard so far. Eventually it will be free online and most will disregard it. My $200 will go to practice and new equipment. Just cause its fun
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.