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Title: Conventional fit drilling
Post by: J_w73 on August 06, 2015, 05:46:38 PM
Can anyone give any tips for fitting a conventional grip?  Where should the span sit?  Which forward/reverse pitch to use for thumb and fingers?  I have read on another forum that you use the thumb pitch conversion chart based on the span.  And use the same pitch for the fingers.  So if the thumb is 1/4 forward you would put the fingers 1/4 forward?  The thumb is pretty straight forward, but how do most drillers do the linear pitches for the fingers?
Title: Re: Conventional fit drilling
Post by: JustRico on August 06, 2015, 05:58:48 PM
Watch the under type angles as the bowler will more than likely tend to grip the ball anyways...as well as their fingers are farther in the ball slowing the release
Title: Re: Conventional fit drilling
Post by: Azaelv on August 06, 2015, 06:04:27 PM
I use to grip the ball due to a huge reverse angle on my thumb, 1/4" and my drill from finger to thumb hole is 4" 1/8, on the other hand my fingers have no reverse or forward, so I guess its pretty much trial and error based on what you feel confortable with, the real thing is dont grip the ball.

Best regards
Title: Re: Conventional fit drilling
Post by: J_w73 on August 06, 2015, 06:12:43 PM
Watch the under type angles as the bowler will more than likely tend to grip the ball anyways...as well as their fingers are farther in the ball slowing the release

That is what I was afraid of. With this span (2 7/8") the pitch will be 11/16 forward(under) in the thumb.  I thought fingers at 11/16 forward(under) as well would be too much and maybe difficult to get out of.
Title: Re: Conventional fit drilling
Post by: J_w73 on August 06, 2015, 06:14:31 PM
Watch the under type angles as the bowler will more than likely tend to grip the ball anyways...as well as their fingers are farther in the ball slowing the release

That is what I was afraid of. With this span (2 7/8") the pitch will be 11/16 forward(under) in the thumb.  I thought fingers at 11/16 forward(under) as well would be too much and maybe difficult to get out of.  But this is for my girlfriend and she is going from 11 lbs up to 12 lbs so I want her to be able to grip the ball.  She refused to go with a fingertip grip and thinks 12 lbs is going to be too heavy and too hard to hold onto.  I'm thinking about putting a hole for each finger just so she can hold onto it.


Title: Re: Conventional fit drilling
Post by: JustRico on August 06, 2015, 06:28:33 PM
I would never go more than 1/4"
When you think if it if their digits are that small plus span it needs to be in moderation...
Title: Re: Conventional fit drilling
Post by: J_w73 on August 06, 2015, 07:20:44 PM
I would never go more than 1/4"
When you think if it if their digits are that small plus span it needs to be in moderation...
for fingers ..? Or any of the pitches?
Title: Re: Conventional fit drilling
Post by: JustRico on August 06, 2015, 07:21:59 PM
Any for a conventional...
Title: Re: Conventional fit drilling
Post by: Perfect Approach Pro Shop on August 07, 2015, 09:40:14 AM
     I use to use the IBPSIA chart when I first started 18 years ago but over time as I started understanding pitches, I have found myself not going more than 5/16 and that is usually on your bowlers with small hands. Adults I usually do not go more tha 1/4 unless they have some physical condition that prevents them from hanging on without excessive squeezing.
Title: Re: Conventional fit drilling
Post by: JohnP on August 07, 2015, 11:33:01 AM
When I first started drilling I used forward on fingers and thumb for conventional fits (second joints in the middle of the finger holes).  Then I realized I ended up beveling the thumb hole a lot for the customer not to have pain at the base of the thumb.  Now I normally use 0 linear on the thumb with 0 - 1/4 forward on the fingers depending on the spans (very short spans = 1/4 forward) and a medium amount of bevel.  --  JohnP 
Title: Re: Conventional fit drilling
Post by: J_w73 on August 07, 2015, 11:40:36 AM
Thank you for the info.  Sounds like 1/4 forward is the consensus.
Title: Re: Conventional fit drilling
Post by: JustRico on August 07, 2015, 12:41:40 PM
This is why the drilled holes should be looked at as angled not pitched