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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: EboHammer4ever on July 08, 2012, 07:24:45 AM
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Hi guys. I was wondering if anyone could tell me the specs needed for a drill press for a home proshop. I have a chance to buy a barely used Porter Cable floor stand drill press with a 5/8" chuck and 4" quill distance. Its says it can change speeds from 300 to 3,000 rpms. I've drilled on an AMF Vacujig and Delta bench top drill press so I'm pretty sure this press will work..plus I can get it for $200. Then I'm thinking of getting an Innovative SJ-2000 jig and bits...so I think I can be up and drilling for under $2,000.00. Let me know.
Thanx guys.
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That sounds exactly like the one I've been using the last 2 years in my basement. It will work fine.
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Cool. What jig do u have on it? If u have the innovative jig...how does it work?
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Just bought a floor standing Porter drill from Lowes after our old bench press setup from lowes finally died after 12 years. It was a manufactures defect.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_78742-46069-PCB660DP_0__?Ntt=porter+drilol+press&productId=3162489&rpp=16
If using an x,y jig it is a very easy and great setup that is very inexpensive. Our old drill had 3" of travel was the only down side, the new one have 4" will be a big improvement. Should be up and running this week.
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That's the one I want to get. What jig r u using?
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That's nice, with the light.
I like at least 4 inches of spindle travel and at least a 16 inch throat. Gives nice room to work around.
REgards,
Luckylefty
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Same style as these listed.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RUDELL-BOWLING-BALL-JIG-/190700170549?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c669dad35
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Used-Bowling-Ball-Drill-Press-Pro-Shop-Ready-JET-JDP-17MF-With-Jig-/170874214025?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c8e59689#ht_500wt_1282
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http://http://s793.photobucket.com/albums/yy219/EFFEN10/?action=view¤t=034.jpg
EboHammer:Photos of my press
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Here's the mill table I used:http://www.grizzly.com/products/6-x-18-1-2-Compound-Slide-Table/G8750
Sorry,you'll need to copy and paste it to your browser.
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Here is the final product. Jig has been mounted and zeroed in. The porter stand up drill from lowes is very awesome and very quite.
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http://http://s793.photobucket.com/albums/yy219/EFFEN10/?action=view¤t=034.jpg
EboHammer:Photos of my press
Is that a KMT ball jig your using?
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The one in the pic is a Rudell. It's a standard X-Y jig. Works great. The most inportant thing is to get the jig centered and aligned with drill chuck. After that make sure to set the RPM's to 450 or 490. Anything above that can cause vibration.
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To give a few more details:
We glued two 14"x14" pieces of MDF together. This was so we could mount the wood to the drill base and then mount the jig to the wood. There was not a good way to mount the jig directly to the base with out drilling holes into metal. Also, mounting the jig to the wood allows you to reposition the jig easier if you don't get it aligned correctly the first time.
Before screwing down the jig to the base, we determined the height the base needed to be. We did this by setting the jig in place (as close as possible), inserting a ball in the jig and our largest drill bit in the chuck. We figured the drill bit needed to be 0.5" above the ball to easily get the drill bit in and out (We tested). This left us with 3.5" to drill holes with (which is more than plenty).
Hope that helps.
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Here's a little better pic.
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Thanx alot guys...these are just the responses I wanted to hear. I contacted Innovative and John said his mill table and clamp type jig would mount to the Porter Cable just fine. Has any of you drilled ITs with this setup...I would assume it would work just fine.
I'm going to setup my little shop in my garage and build a cabinet to enclose and store everything so this press should do just fine. Looking to get the press now cause I can get it for $299 then buy the jig and bits next year when I have some money saved up.
thanx again guys.
Ebohammer
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I have a Jet Drill Press I bought from JayHawk about 10 years ago I'll sell for $300 if you live near Nashville, TN!! I have photos of the press if your interested!! I haven't used it for about 4 years after I bought my Powerhouse Mill in 2008. Thanks, Bruce
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http://http://s793.photobucket.com/albums/yy219/EFFEN10/?action=view¤t=034.jpg
EboHammer:Photos of my press
Is that a KMT ball jig your using?
As A matter of fact,it is a KMT ball Jig. I had a 1" by 6" inch piece cut
out from the front of it so it would match the width of the mill table.
My mill table with ball jig cost me about $450.00.
The least expensive jig I could find was $600.00.Every thing works great.
I zero the table with the ball plug cutter I have.
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I just picked up this setup for $400 locally. It's a Brunswick setup, model 61-100000 and it came with all of the drill bits, bevel sander, and a Bill Taylor Ball-Fitter (which I have for sale in the FS forums), and some other items. Bought it from a Sports Authority that was getting out of the drilling business. The manager of the store even said that they got the press somewhat recently to replace their old one.
I had been toying around with the idea of drilling for a while and even picked up a Jayhawk Jig off of craigslist. Came across the whole setup while searching for a press that would work with the jig I had, so now the Jayhawk jig is for sale in the forums as well ($250) since I don't need it...
I've never drilled before, so now I need to get educated!
(https://www.ballreviews.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh65%2Fkmueller44%2FBowling%2520Balls%2F5I75F75M93K33M13N5c8571da6cf3a25011f0.jpg&hash=e2744b772fd6662caf1593eb61a04ff73b6c15a9)
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Thats pretty awesome! Now you just have to double check to make sure its drilling the pitches it's indicating. Great find.
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Thats pretty awesome! Now you just have to double check to make sure its drilling the pitches it's indicating. Great find.
And it is. I picked up some Jonell Pitch gauges and it's drilling pitches exactly as indicated. I just need to figure out how to tighten up the jig or lock it as it tends to wobble.
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The clamps? Or the actually press its self. If its the clamps you might be able to upgrade to the locking plate. If its the press, 1/2 hardware locks down just about anything. Lol! Still pretty sweet my friend.
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The clamps? Or the actually press its self. If its the clamps you might be able to upgrade to the locking plate. If its the press, 1/2 hardware locks down just about anything. Lol! Still pretty sweet my friend.
Thanks, so far I like it. I've drilled two balls now.
The clamps are fine, there's just a lot of play in the jig table it's self. The top plate wobbles while the bottom plate is secured to the press.
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Hi can I ask what drill bits do you use or do you replace the chuck? Thanks :D
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1/2" straight shank drill bits.
http://shop.innovativebowling.com/Straight-Shank_c114.htm;jsessionid=6BF4198D8F7E6AE41723E3C23149E63A.m1plqscsfapp05
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I know this is an old topic, but I have to ask you guys this. I notice there are x and y axis on the drill press itself. Then I noticed the mill table that EFFEN 10 talked about has those "crank wheels" as the best term I can think of. What exactly do you turn to change the pitches on the ball? Do you turn the ones on the press or the ones on the mill table?
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The mill table is attached to the press. He uses the KMT jig (which is attached to the table) to hold the ball, moving the table to adjust the pitches.
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OK so I read it as use the mill table x and y crank wheels to adjust the pitches.
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That is correct. I adjust pitches using the crank handles on the MILL table.
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OK now my next question is, how deep from the table of the drill press to the bottom of the hole where you put the drill bit in do you need? Obviously a 8" isn't going to do it. How about 12"?
I was looking at this one: http://www.ballreviews.com/drilling-layouts/drill-press-specs-for-home-proshop-t287557.15.html and throw that mill table on that was recommended in this post and then the KMT jig.
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Depends how long your drill bits are.
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Do you mean the distance from the tip of the drill bit to the drill press table or to the
base of the KMT ball jig attached to the mill table?