Post by: Long Roller on August 14, 2007, 08:00:02 AM
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Post by: Long Roller on August 14, 2007, 09:36:21 PM
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Post by: pro shop guy on August 14, 2007, 09:40:03 PM
Post by: Long Roller on August 14, 2007, 09:41:26 PM
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Post by: Russell on August 14, 2007, 09:58:27 PM
I would think $50 blank drill and $25 for the inserts is about right for a good prop shop.
If you can find it MUCH cheaper than that....you should probably question the quality of the work.
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Post by: Long Roller on August 14, 2007, 10:06:46 PM
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When you factor in laying the ball out, drilling, weighing, two inner sleeves....you're talking about close to 2 hours of total work.
I would think $50 blank drill and $25 for the inserts is about right for a good prop shop.
If you can find it MUCH cheaper than that....you should probably question the quality of the work.
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I can see your point, but 2 hours is way exaggerated. I drilled for a couple years and know that it isn't possible to spend two hours drilling a ball. I would think more along the lines that a good driller is worth $50 AN HOUR for their work....
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Post by: TheDude on August 14, 2007, 10:09:49 PM
i don't have the switch grip bit at the momment but i have inners cause some customers come in with them broken.
i charge i think 20 for an inner and 10 for an outter.
so it would have charged you 35+(20x2)+10= so 85$ from me. lol i am pretty good, so if you wanted to save 10$ stick to your guy.
75 for two inners on a blank ball and one outter is reasonable.
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Post by: Russell on August 14, 2007, 10:09:55 PM
But remember...you're paying for the shop's time. Getting axis points.....talking to the customer and finding out what they really want the ball to do.....taking time to make sure the ball rolls properly after it is finished.
These all add up to time spent w/the customer....they all go into the price.
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Post by: Long Roller on August 14, 2007, 10:15:58 PM
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Post by: TheDude on August 14, 2007, 10:21:04 PM
as for how much time it takes spent infront of the work bench and press, it can be a 5 minute thing to do, if the spec sheet is neatly written out infront of oneself.
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Post by: hammermike2000 on August 14, 2007, 10:53:34 PM
blank fingertip drill - $35
switch grip outer - $15
switch grip inners - $20 each.
And for the record, remember that drilling the inners takes more time than usual to drill. So 5 minutes to drill the above items = not even close.
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Post by: justdale on August 14, 2007, 10:56:03 PM
Post by: mrbowlingnut on August 14, 2007, 10:57:05 PM
Buddiesproshop is cheaper for the switch grip but only if you are buying from them, my local shop charges alittle more for the switch grip being used also.
Post by: laufaye on August 15, 2007, 10:54:38 AM
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I would think more along the lines that a good driller is worth $50 AN HOUR for their work....
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This is why the pro shop business is tuff, even you used to drill and not believe driller worth more than $50 an hour, REMEMBER we don't come to work and drill 8-10 hours straight. Guys be real, how much a plaumber or electrician charge you to just look at the problem? over 100/hr plus parts, why? thats included travel time and down time.
Back to the original post, I charge 50 blank drill, 15 inserts, 35 a set of switch grip and 20 for additional inner sleeve, so in this case $120, well I might throw in the inserts n this case.
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Post by: BrianCRX90 on August 28, 2007, 09:41:07 PM
Post by: BrunsNick on August 28, 2007, 09:43:09 PM
$6.00 inserts
$25.00 switch grip setup
$15.00 extra inner
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Post by: Russell on August 28, 2007, 10:42:17 PM
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That's why I choose to go to other alleys. I'm not paying 50 freakin dollars for the cost of drilling, that's ridiculous.
Yeah I hate paying people for their time and knowledge too.....
We wonder why pro shops are going under with this attitude.
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Post by: drillbit on August 29, 2007, 05:11:00 AM
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Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on September 02, 2007, 01:15:55 AM
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How much do you think the rate should be to drill a blank ball brought to the pro shop with a switch grip and two inner sleeves?
I would charge $35 for the blank drill............$20 per inner sleeve and $15 per outter sleeve.
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Post by: duvallite on September 02, 2007, 03:26:23 AM
Blank drill is $25.
Post by: RipARack on September 11, 2007, 03:24:21 PM
Now here is something else to think about, we get $50 to plug a ball. So, if you come in with a ball thats already drilled, I will plug, cut down, resurface AND drill the ball for less than a new ball. I am currently lobbying to raise this more, but we were at $30 just last month.........baby steps. Anyone in the business knows how much work goes into plugging a ball. WE as an industry need to stop GIVING away our knowledge and expertise.
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Post by: laufaye on September 11, 2007, 05:03:56 PM
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WE as an industry need to stop GIVING away our knowledge and expertise.
Amen
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Post by: JOE FALCO on September 11, 2007, 05:31:20 PM
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WE as an industry need to stop GIVING away our knowledge and expertise.
This should read:
CONSUMERS stop GIVING AWAY your MONEY!
I'd have NO PROBLEM at all giving up bowling if drillers start charging $75 to drill a ball!
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Post by: laufaye on September 11, 2007, 06:01:51 PM
quote:quote:
WE as an industry need to stop GIVING away our knowledge and expertise.
This should read:
CONSUMERS stop GIVING AWAY your MONEY!
I'd have NO PROBLEM at all giving up bowling if drillers start charging $75 to drill a ball!
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Will you stay in the game if the price raise to $74?
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Post by: JOE FALCO on September 11, 2007, 06:21:17 PM
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Post by: Mike Austin on September 11, 2007, 11:47:34 PM
Blank Drill $40
Finger Grips $7 (even though you didn't mention grips???)
Outer Sleeve $10
Inner Sleeve $20 each (X 2)
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Post by: BrianCRX90 on September 15, 2007, 05:09:33 PM
But however, the fact that they charge 20 bucks extra (50 dollars) for bringing in a ball from outside that is not purchased in the proshop pisses me off so for that reason I do not have my equipment drilled there anymore. I'd rather drive 50 miles outside of town to save 20 bucks because it's the prinipal. Screw pro shops that charge extra for bringing balls you didn't buy from them!
Post by: Russell on September 16, 2007, 08:37:17 AM
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I know of a pro shop that happens to be where I live close to and bowl 3 leagues in and they charge 30 bucks for the price of the labor of drilling if you buy the ball there. The prices for the balls are not great but not bad.
But however, the fact that they charge 20 bucks extra (50 dollars) for bringing in a ball from outside that is not purchased in the proshop pisses me off so for that reason I do not have my equipment drilled there anymore. I'd rather drive 50 miles outside of town to save 20 bucks because it's the prinipal. Screw pro shops that charge extra for bringing balls you didn't buy from them!
Let's see....they put the investment in the ball...saved you the trouble of buying it online...used their shop that they pay rent on to house it in storage....and it p!sses you off that give you a discount on drilling it?
I don't really undestand your beef....? The pro shop has inventory they are already spending money to keep in stock....and they are making a small profit on the sale of the ball. With a discount they are trying to encourage you to buy from them.
This sort of attitude is what is destroying pro shops......I think we are a lot closer than most of the "armchair ball drillers" think to being down to just a few choices.
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Post by: Rabiddog135 on September 16, 2007, 12:31:00 PM
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Our shops charge $30 to drill a blank plastic and $55 for reactive. Grips are $12/pair, slugs $15. Inners are $25 and outers $15. But, we include a free analysis on the C.A.T.S. we have installed here with a reactive drill. We charge $30 for the C.A.T.S. session so there is value in it for the customer.
Now here is something else to think about, we get $50 to plug a ball. So, if you come in with a ball thats already drilled, I will plug, cut down, resurface AND drill the ball for less than a new ball. I am currently lobbying to raise this more, but we were at $30 just last month.........baby steps. Anyone in the business knows how much work goes into plugging a ball. WE as an industry need to stop GIVING away our knowledge and expertise.
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Post by: Track_Fanatic on September 16, 2007, 12:48:57 PM
Post by: Russell on September 16, 2007, 02:35:53 PM
Why even bother using a reactive ball if they are the same?
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Post by: Rabiddog135 on September 16, 2007, 08:22:53 PM
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You think drilling a plastic ball is the same as a reactive ball????
Why even bother using a reactive ball if they are the same?
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Measuring for the spans, pitches and things like that are all the same wheather it is a plastic or a reactive the only difference in my book is deciding what layout you want to go with on a reactive and in my book that is not worth an extra $25.00 I dont give a dam how good a driller is.
yes the cover,s are different and what not but in my book its not $25.00 different.
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Post by: Russell on September 16, 2007, 08:42:58 PM
Drilling a Lane 1 ball = drilling a plastic ball.
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Post by: Rabiddog135 on September 16, 2007, 08:45:51 PM
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Measuring for the spans, pitches and things like that are all the same wheather it is a plastic or a reactive the only difference in my book is deciding what layout you want to go with on a reactive and in my book that is not worth an extra $25.00 I dont give a dam how good a driller is.
yes the cover,s are different and what not but in my book its not $25.00 different.
So you are happy to pay extra money for a ball from the manufacturer says its better than everything else, but you are not happy to pay someone a measily $25 for their 100's of hours of unpaid research into layouts?
Not the brightest bulb in the packet now, are ya....
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I will put it to you this way if most Pro shop operators spent the hundreds of hours like you suggest they do learning their profession rather than by trial and error, like they do in Arizona I would be happy to pay the extra $25.00 for getting my equipment drilled but most that I have dealt with here has not spent the hundred's of hours as you suggest. They take one class or spend several days in a shop watching and learning how to drill a ball from someone I have only been in one shop here that I would say they might have spent the hundreds of hours learning their profession and thats debateable
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Post by: novawagonmaster on September 16, 2007, 08:57:22 PM
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That's why I choose to go to other alleys. I'm not paying 50 freakin dollars for the cost of drilling, that's ridiculous.
I hear Wal-Mart is rolling back prices on ball drilling. Maybe you should give them a try.
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Post by: Rabiddog135 on September 16, 2007, 09:19:09 PM
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He's "F.O.S. to the bone"...so he already knows it all. Just throw a label leverage on it and the diamond does the rest.
Drilling a Lane 1 ball = drilling a plastic ball.
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Russel, Jabroni What ever you want to call yourself. I never said once I knew everything not one time,and yes I happen to be an avid Lane1 fan, I am a fan of what ever ball works for me. I would not have a Label leverage layout put on anything as that layout never worked for me.
And if you read my signature right now that happens to be an Ebonite ball the TNV but you being 28 years old surely you can read with your wisdom and hundreds hours of learning still have yet to answer my original question as to why pro shops feel its worth an extra $25.00 to drill a reactive ball and $25.00 less for a plastic maybe I am senile or somthing but I just dont see it
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Post by: Russell on September 16, 2007, 09:26:40 PM
Come on.....
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Post by: novawagonmaster on September 16, 2007, 09:30:54 PM
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Post by: Rabiddog135 on September 16, 2007, 09:36:16 PM
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You've been posting on this site long enough to join a "clique"...but don't know that more thought goes into drilling a high tech ball than a plastic ball?
Come on.....
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I know more than you give me credit for and yes I do know there is a little bit more in drilling a reactive as aposed to a plastic but in my opinion it should be no more than $10.00 to $15.00 and you brought up the grip thing $12.00 to purchase a pair of grips and glue them in come on how many hours of class did that take it only took me about 30 seconds to learn that job.
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Post by: Dan Belcher on September 16, 2007, 09:38:28 PM
Post by: Rabiddog135 on September 16, 2007, 10:04:19 PM
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There are no tricks to laying out a plastic ball. You plop three holes in ball over the label and you are out the door. To maximize the potential of a reactive ball, the driller will need to get info about the bowler (speed rev rate, axis tilt/rotation, PAP measurements, expected lane conditions, etc), determine a suitable layout, draw the lines utilizing axis coordinates, THEN plop three holes in the ball. There is quite a bit more time involved in gathering information, making decisions, and laying out the ball PRIOR TO actually drilling the ball. Plastic skips all of those steps and goes straight to the last step...DRILL.
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Novawagonmaster, Russel, AbsoluteBowling in replying to this post I was trying to prove one thing on this site. If me as an older member is bashed like you guys just did me for asking a simple question which by the way is what I did in my original reply was to ask a simple question, which took several replies to my reply to get a answer out of you guys which Novawagonmaster finally did by the way.
I want you guys to think about one thing how do you all think a new member feels when asking a question and all they get is bashed for asking that question or bashed for their likes or dislikes of a certain manufacturer which by the way was also done to me,but me I am thick skined but some are not and thats why alot of new people refuse to sign onto this great site or do and then leave because they do not want the bashing.
I know vary well there is alot more to drilling a reactive ball than just plugging three holes in it there is alot of info that has to be taken into account and a good driller will get all of that info.
But sometimes just answering the simple question would be all thats needed to stop alot of these kinds of things going on and on and on and getting out of hand
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Pearl Cherry Bomb (X2-1NIB 1 is 16Lb)
H2O,
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And Always Looking For More
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Edited on 9/16/2007 10:08 PM
Post by: laufaye on September 16, 2007, 10:25:38 PM
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I've recently raised my rates to 35/plastic 50/reactive + inserts/slug.
Nick,
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Post by: Russell on September 16, 2007, 10:33:11 PM
quote:quote:
There are no tricks to laying out a plastic ball. You plop three holes in ball over the label and you are out the door. To maximize the potential of a reactive ball, the driller will need to get info about the bowler (speed rev rate, axis tilt/rotation, PAP measurements, expected lane conditions, etc), determine a suitable layout, draw the lines utilizing axis coordinates, THEN plop three holes in the ball. There is quite a bit more time involved in gathering information, making decisions, and laying out the ball PRIOR TO actually drilling the ball. Plastic skips all of those steps and goes straight to the last step...DRILL.
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Novawagonmaster, Russel, AbsoluteBowling in replying to this post I was trying to prove one thing on this site. If me as an older member is bashed like you guys just did me for asking a simple question which by the way is what I did in my original reply was to ask a simple question, which took several replies to my reply to get a answer out of you guys which Novawagonmaster finally did by the way.
I want you guys to think about one thing how do you all think a new member feels when asking a question and all they get is bashed for asking that question or bashed for their likes or dislikes of a certain manufacturer which by the way was also done to me,but me I am thick skined but some are not and thats why alot of new people refuse to sign onto this great site or do and then leave because they do not want the bashing.
I know vary well there is alot more to drilling a reactive ball than just plugging three holes in it there is alot of info that has to be taken into account and a good driller will get all of that info.
But sometimes just answering the simple question would be all thats needed to stop alot of these kinds of things going on and on and on and getting out of hand
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And In Storage
Cobalt Bomb (NIB),BCB(X1-NIB),
Original SD X1 NIB
Pearl Cherry Bomb (X2-1NIB 1 is 16Lb)
H2O,
Pink Raspberry (X1-16Lb)
And Always Looking For More
F.O.S. To The Bone
Edited on 9/16/2007 10:08 PM
I don't think your question was as innocent as you are playing it to be. A couple of lines in there add to your OPINION that the drilling should not be higher. You can play victim all you like....but the tone of your post was condescending...not questioning.
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Post by: Rabiddog135 on September 16, 2007, 10:42:45 PM
I do have a great respect for alot of you on this site but I was trying to prove a point here and you three helped me in doing so. There is way to much bashing thats going on, on this site instead of just helping someone out when they have a question and I hope you agree with me on that, I think there needs to be some changes made on this site to stop the bashing,and yes I have been guilty of it myself a few times, but I am going to stop.
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Pearl Cherry Bomb (X2-1NIB 1 is 16Lb)
H2O,
Pink Raspberry (X1-16Lb)
And Always Looking For More
F.O.S. To The Bone
Post by: novawagonmaster on September 17, 2007, 07:01:21 PM
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Novawagonmaster, Russel, AbsoluteBowling in replying to this post I was trying to prove one thing on this site. If me as an older member is bashed like you guys just did me for asking a simple question which by the way is what I did in my original reply was to ask a simple question, which took several replies to my reply to get a answer out of you guys which Novawagonmaster finally did by the way.
I want you guys to think about one thing how do you all think a new member feels when asking a question and all they get is bashed for asking that question or bashed for their likes or dislikes of a certain manufacturer which by the way was also done to me,but me I am thick skined but some are not and thats why alot of new people refuse to sign onto this great site or do and then leave because they do not want the bashing.
I know vary well there is alot more to drilling a reactive ball than just plugging three holes in it there is alot of info that has to be taken into account and a good driller will get all of that info.
But sometimes just answering the simple question would be all thats needed to stop alot of these kinds of things going on and on and on and getting out of hand
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