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Title: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: 86camaroman on February 12, 2008, 10:21:11 AM
I have all the stuff to do my own stuff including scales. I have all the right stuff not homeade or anything like that. I have never drilled a ball. I know what my span is but how do I put it on the ball correctly. I did some practice stuff and it seemed like the thumb ended up feeling weird everytime like it was more left then it should be. I am left handed. Also how thick should the bridge be. Teach me please. Pics are helpful as well. Thanks
Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: Leftyhi-trak on February 12, 2008, 06:37:43 PM
Go to a pro-shop class. Its worth the couple hundred. Learn to do it right first. Ask you buddies to donate to you balls they have stopped using. You can first cut your teeth on the fine art of plugging then practice drilling on stuff that doesn't matter. Have fun, very envious.
Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: 86camaroman on February 12, 2008, 07:17:58 PM
I also got a bunch of ball plug too. I will try on some junk balls and see what happens. It doesnt seem to hard I just wanted some pointers. I cant believe I have all the stuff I wasnt even looking for it but it fell into my lap I have a better set up then some of the pro shops I have seen. Just need to learn how to use it now.
Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: tjj300 on February 12, 2008, 10:00:58 PM
Standard bridge is 1/4".  Also, when doing lateral pitches, make sure you're going the right way.  If you want 1/8" right you need to move the ball 1/8" LEFT.  It's easy to do it backwards.
Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: Thunder835 on February 12, 2008, 10:34:14 PM
Ummm...do you really think u should be drilling ANY bowling balls if u must ask these questions? I do not want to upset you, but you could really do harm to yourself and others without gaining a little knowledge on "putting holes in a ball"? At least read a few books, or if you can afford it, pay someone to help you out with some basics. It isn't all about just drilling a few holes and hoping it comes out OK.
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Edited on 2/12/2008 11:35 PM
Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: 86camaroman on February 13, 2008, 06:16:21 AM
Thunder what do you think I am doing I am asking questions to try to learn. I am practicing on junk balls. I am not just going to drill a 200 ball until I know how to do it. You have to start somewhere.
Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: Thunder835 on February 13, 2008, 10:22:27 AM
Asking questions on a computer is not what you need to do. You need to get hands-on experience. People throwing numbers and explanations to you in text will not help you learn the proper techniques. Just stating some small facts.
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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: Rileybowler on February 13, 2008, 10:34:03 AM
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Go to a pro-shop class. Its worth the couple hundred. Learn to do it right first. Ask you buddies to donate to you balls they have stopped using. You can first cut your teeth on the fine art of plugging then practice drilling on stuff that doesn't matter. Have fun, very envious.


This is excellent advice, if I were you I would heed it, but its up to you
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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: Moon57 on February 13, 2008, 02:22:59 PM
If your mechanically inclined and have the right tools it isn't really too hard to get the holes in the ball. I had a couple of balls that I kept plugging and redrilling, experimenting with forward, reverse and lateral pitches until I pretty much settled on what I have now. I kept changing the pitches in small steps because I didn't want to hurt my hand and if the ball didn't feel right I immediately quit throwing it. The real challenge is putting the proper layout on the ball for your style and what you want the ball to do. But there are many people on this forum that are very knowledgeable about layouts that are always ready to help when you ask. I basically learned most of what I know from this forum and experimentation on "mule" balls. Just remember, It's just a bowling ball and if the hole isn't right you just plug it up and start over. BTW, most of the balls I have are used balls from EBay.
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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: 86camaroman on February 13, 2008, 03:03:06 PM
I played around with it today did lots of spans and stuff on junk stuff. Then Drilled my buddies new plastic spare ball for him. It came out really nice. My question what are the finger pitches supposed to be at so the bridge doesnt drill through. Somebody on here wrote me a pm saying to use 3/8 on both and that did work great the bridge didnt break or drill through what should a guy use though.
Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: ccrider on February 13, 2008, 05:46:44 PM
0 and 5/8 will keep you clear.

I will send you some info that the guys on here provided to me later. There are some good people on this sight that will help you with just about anything. So ignore the rest.

CC

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I played around with it today did lots of spans and stuff on junk stuff. Then Drilled my buddies new plastic spare ball for him. It came out really nice. My question what are the finger pitches supposed to be at so the bridge doesnt drill through. Somebody on here wrote me a pm saying to use 3/8 on both and that did work great the bridge didnt break or drill through what should a guy use though.

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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: legend4life95 on February 13, 2008, 07:31:05 PM
I use 1/4 left and 1/2 right with 5/16 bridge. They don't meet even at 2-1/2" deep and I have never had a bridge crack.
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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: Thunder835 on February 13, 2008, 07:50:13 PM
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Asking questions on a computer is not what you need to do. You need to get hands-on experience. People throwing numbers and explanations to you in text will not help you learn the proper techniques. Just stating some small facts.
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Then why tell him to read books? What makes the internet different than a book?
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If he uses a book for basic drilling techniques, it will have illustrations and step by step instruction. Just typing it out does no good. Obviously the easiest way to learn is by working with someone who has experience, but if he can't go that direction, a book WITH illustrations is still better than just trying to understand what people type and send him.
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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: J_Mac on February 13, 2008, 08:10:51 PM
A book would be less confusing than half a dozen self proclaimed experts all chiming in with somewhat conflicting information.
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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: qstick777 on February 13, 2008, 08:43:49 PM


You should be able to get some good info  here. (http://"http://www.tunedballmotion.com/Example%20Layout.htm")

And check out brunsnick.com - he has some good videos about laying out balls.
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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: JohnP on February 13, 2008, 09:16:12 PM
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My question what are the finger pitches supposed to be at so the bridge doesnt drill through. Somebody on here wrote me a pm saying to use 3/8 on both and that did work great the bridge didnt break or drill through what should a guy use though.


The rule of thumb I've been taught is to keep the difference between the two pitches at 3/4 or greater.  Thus, 3/8 right and 3/8 left - diff is 3/4.  Same for 1/4 L and 5/8 R, 0 and 3/4 R, etc.  --  JohnP
Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: Raven829 on February 13, 2008, 09:19:39 PM
I know that all my stuff is supposedly drilled with 3/8 left and right respectively with a 3/16 bridge and ALL of my stuff both meets at the bottom of the holes and cracks out around the fingers.  I recently had a ball with a wider bridge drilled and no cracking as of yet.  

Don
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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: Moon57 on February 14, 2008, 04:33:51 AM
Say Raven, I think all the manufacturers want a 1/4" bridge for warranty purposes.

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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: luk_web on February 14, 2008, 05:47:52 AM
I have an old manual from a pro shop training seminar I use to help teach. If you would like i would be willing to send it to you. It covers everything from sanding a ball to measuring for milled thumb holes.
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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: novawagonmaster on February 14, 2008, 06:39:28 AM
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I use 1/4 left and 1/2 right with 5/16 bridge. They don't meet even at 2-1/2" deep and I have never had a bridge crack.
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I use the same pitches, but only 1/4 bridge width. Have not had any holes meet at the bottom or bridges crack yet.
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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: Moon57 on February 14, 2008, 07:08:12 AM
Another point is that you don't have to use the full finger insert. You can drill the hole shallower and cut the bottom part of the insert off. You really only need the insert to be long enough so you can't feel the bottom of the insert when you put your finger in. With shallower holes you have more choices for lateral pitch and more adjustability for static weights.
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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: 86camaroman on February 14, 2008, 07:54:36 AM
Thanks for all the good tips I appreciate it. Luk if you dont mind I would definetely like to take a look at that manual.
Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: Strapper_Squared on February 14, 2008, 08:12:01 AM
I use 1/4" bridge on everything and never had any problems.  If installing grips, I use 3/8" lateral on middle finger and 1/2" on ring...  if no grips, I use 3/8" for both.  I would recommend trying to track down a copy of Bill Taylors "Fitting and Drilling a Bowling Ball."  Its quite old, but in general its very informative...  It explains in detail a lot of the pitch related questions.  

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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: OHBowler on February 14, 2008, 08:29:20 AM
I use 1/4 inch bridge, which is basically the thickness of your pro sect.  I do <-0, 5/8-> on most of mine.  Works just fine.
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Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: ccrider on February 14, 2008, 01:43:57 PM
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A book would be less confusing than half a dozen self proclaimed experts all chiming in with somewhat conflicting information.
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Ouch!!!! For the record, I do not claim to be an expert. The figures that I gave came from Taylor's book. He may claim to be an expert.
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Edited on 2/14/2008 2:45 PM
Title: Re: I just got everything to drill my own equipment help
Post by: Moon57 on February 15, 2008, 01:21:46 PM
Bowlingtoe, that's what I do. Thumb first then fingers.
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