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lubstorfk

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Getting a New Ball
« on: January 31, 2005, 10:51:23 PM »
I'm hoping someone might be able to help me.  First off, I've been bowling off and on for well over 30 years.  I've just recently returned to it after about a 13 year layoff. I'm bowling in a league at a house that is using synthetic lanes and what appears to be quite heavy oil as I'm constantly wiping my ball off.  I'm using an Ebonite Nitro (16lb) and (Ok, I'm showing my age now) an Ebonite Gyro I for shooting spares (15lb).  I guess you would say I'm a stroker with medium speed and revs.  (Earl Anthony and Dick Weber were my heros!)

I'm contemplating a new ball as soon as I can figure out what one might work best for me, but after seeing this website I see I've got a LOT of catching up to do. I'd hate to spend the money only to get a ball drilled wrong.  So group ... how do I talk to the guy at the pro shop????  What do I need to know so he can help me get the most out of a new ball.  I'd never had a pro shop guy ask me any particular questions before.  They'd just try on the finger sizes...measure my hand etc... and drill away.

I'd appreciate your thoughts and opinions.

 

JohnP

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Re: Getting a New Ball
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2005, 09:50:13 AM »
ubstorfk -- Yes, bowling balls have changed a lot in the last 13 years!  The main thing your pro is going to need to know is - what do you want the ball to do?  Do you want a lot of break, a little break, skid/snap, arc, etc.  When you define that, the pro should watch you throw some shots with your existing equipment and determine your PAP (positive axis point).  If he doesn't do these two things, find another driller.  After this, he will be able to make a ball recommendation.  Don't let him stop at one recommendation, get a list of several across the various manufacturers (don't allow him to limit the selection to what he has in stock, he can get any ball made, usually within 3 - 5 days), then come back here and read the information available on them.  Also visit the manufacturers' web sites and bowlingballreviews.com.  When you make a final selection, let him measure your hand, then compare his recommendations to the fit of your existing equipment before approving a final grip.  If the grip changes are major, you may want to supply him an old ball to drill with the new grip so you can throw it before making a final decision.  I don't charge for this service (just drill the grip in an area that the existing holes won't impact), but some might.  Based on your description of what you want from the ball, he will lay it out.  You can read the information in the drill sheet supplied with the ball and help him decide on the layout.  Then drill it and throw it.  If it doesn't do exactly what you wanted, ask him about surface changes and/or a balance hole to adjust the reaction.  --  JohnP

jimensminger

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Re: Getting a New Ball
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2005, 11:38:19 AM »
Exactly what JP said,..one thing I might add is that the most expensive ball is not always the best for what you might want,..or need. Just like buying a new car,..do your homework and research,..then go see the salesman.
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livespive

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Re: Getting a New Ball
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2005, 12:28:17 PM »
IF you liked you Nitro I would get someting with a similar core:

Nitro
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=56

I used to use
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=279
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=99
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=9

I would suggsest looking at:

Visionary Charcoal Executioner
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=1070 (I use this now,
the core is very similar)

AMF Valor P Tour
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2084

Columbia Messenger TI Traction
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2094

Ebonite V2 Sweet (or any of the V2 line depending on condition)
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2334

Hammer Sharp Blade (or any of the Blade line depending on condition)
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2146

These cores are very close to the turbo (light bulb core)
I would suggest sticking with something like that.
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lubstorfk

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Re: Getting a New Ball
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2005, 07:29:50 AM »
Thanks for the great info folks.  I've decided at this point to work more on getting my timing and release back so I'm throwing the ball consistently.  Then I'll get one of the pro shops to watch it before we get into buying and drilling.  Figure if I can't throw the ball consistently, a new ball is going to do me any good.  It shouldn't take me too long.  The other night I averaged 159.  No, not anything spectacular, but I was made a 15 pin improvement over the previous week and I'm starting to get the hang of what these lanes do over the course of the night.  The Nitro starts out hooking great early on but runs out of steam about halfway through the second game.  Yeah, it's sliding further I'm assuming due to the oil carrying down.