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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: myty299 on December 19, 2013, 06:15:34 AM
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I love my karma urethane, but I'm having a really hard time finding another newer urethane ball or even an old urethane ball in good shape. I was wondering if anybody had an idea what kind of layout would work on something weaker like a strike king or slingshot to make it roll like an older urethane ball?
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Personally, when I want something like that, I'll go pin 1.5 inches from pap with the cg moved enough to put a medium hole in it. Allowed me to go much straighter and greatly reduce the sharp move of the dry. IF you had to choose between those two, I would go with the Strike King. Are you set on just Brunswick?
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visionary still makes their ogre urethane.
It's shell is harder than any other company urethane today. It's almost as hard as the old pink hammer. Their ogre core is still stronger than the pink hammer cores of the 90s, but if you drill it weak, you could get what you are after.
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visionary still makes their ogre urethane.
It's shell is harder than any other company urethane today. It's almost as hard as the old pink hammer. Their ogre core is still stronger than the pink hammer cores of the 90s, but if you drill it weak, you could get what you are after.
Visionary is no longer producing the Ogre Urethane. It is on their discontinued list. If you use 16# or 13#, you may still be able to get one.
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I agree with Impending Doom. I just drilled a Strike King for one of our seniors who has a tough time with balls finishing too strong for his speed.
I put the pin 2" from his PAP (below fingers) and knocked some gloss off and the ball is very predictable.
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How does the Strike King hit with that layout?
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How does the Strike King hit with that layout?
It hits better than a urethane, in my opinion. It just smoothed out the late reaction.
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My apologies. Didn't realize Visionary discontinued theirs.
I wish Hammer would re-issue the pink hammer.
They just made 330 special vibes.
I'm betting they could sell 300 pink hammers if they made them. I know I'd take 2.
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Personally, when I want something like that, I'll go pin 1.5 inches from pap with the cg moved enough to put a medium hole in it. Allowed me to go much straighter and greatly reduce the sharp move of the dry. IF you had to choose between those two, I would go with the Strike King. Are you set on just Brunswick?
+1. Shorter pin to pap will help the ball bleed energy in the fronts and smooth the overall reaction. I drilled my new Roto Grip Shout this way and love it when the Pattern get stupid as far as dry. I also drilled a Radical Torrid Affair with the Pin on the PAP and P2 hole for a customer with a higher rev rate and slower speed. I'm hoping it rolls great for her.
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Short pin to pap as mentioned along with sanding the surface down to tame the backend snap.
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Pin 1" from axis or on axis pending your rev rate.
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IMO, pin on axis doesn't flare enough. I used to use this on particles and watched the surface a lot due to the decreased flare. I had a Money drilled 1x4 and no matter how far I threw it into the dry, it never jumped. I loved that ball.
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I love my karma urethane, but I'm having a really hard time finding another newer urethane ball or even an old urethane ball in good shape. I was wondering if anybody had an idea what kind of layout would work on something weaker like a strike king or slingshot to make it roll like an older urethane ball?
I have all three ball mentioned above. All drilled the same. The Strike King is more length and backend than the Karma. The Slingshot is close, but I think it hooks more and does not hit the pins as hard as the Karma. There may be still some Karma Urethanes out there. How heavy do you use? I know where there may be some.
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Personally, when I want something like that, I'll go pin 1.5 inches from pap with the cg moved enough to put a medium hole in it. Allowed me to go much straighter and greatly reduce the sharp move of the dry. IF you had to choose between those two, I would go with the Strike King. Are you set on just Brunswick?
+1. Shorter pin to pap will help the ball bleed energy in the fronts and smooth the overall reaction. I drilled my new Roto Grip Shout this way and love it when the Pattern get stupid as far as dry. I also drilled a Radical Torrid Affair with the Pin on the PAP and P2 hole for a customer with a higher rev rate and slower speed. I'm hoping it rolls great for her.
I just picked up a Shout for cheap, $59 bucks. Going to put a 2 inch pin to pap drill on it for thrid game in a wood house when the lanes are bad dry.
What specs should I ask for to use this drillin?
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Depends on your pap. If you do not want a weight hole you need a little longer pin to pap to get the cg closer to your grip line.
You will also need to adjust the surface. I use 2-2.5" pin to paps for a sooner read. They still hook like resin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lYla6mMNn8&list=UU3VftStl4sWcuACk5kkKbDw
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Depends on your pap. If you do not want a weight hole you need a little longer pin to pap to get the cg closer to your grip line.
You will also need to adjust the surface. I use 2-2.5" pin to paps for a sooner read. They still hook like resin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lYla6mMNn8&list=UU3VftStl4sWcuACk5kkKbDw
kid--How much length and volume <ml> on that vid you linked here?
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No idea. It was a fresh shot. The Blue Ringer was new out the box. After a few games it has since picked up to be quite strong. Urethane typically hooks earlier and flattens out. It is hard to accomplish with resin.
Plastic with surface can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-jnEhAGic0&list=UU3VftStl4sWcuACk5kkKbDw&index=2
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No idea. It was a fresh shot. The Blue Ringer was new out the box. After a few games it has since picked up to be quite strong. Urethane typically hooks earlier and flattens out. It is hard to accomplish with resin.
Plastic with surface can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-jnEhAGic0&list=UU3VftStl4sWcuACk5kkKbDw&index=2
Compared to your other Big B stuff Strike King & LT-48 how does the Blue Solid stack up? Would you call it a medium condition 40 to 41 foot or light-medium?
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I put the Ringer Solid almost board for board with my Beatdown on the same layout.
The Ringer Solids like the other two Ringers is a lot of ball for the money. Medium to heavy if needed no problem depending on layout and surface. Great ball.