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blockhater

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Increasing Flare Seperation
« on: February 14, 2005, 09:45:11 PM »
OK so I drilled another Ultimate up with the pin under the fingers about 5 1/4 inches from my PAP with the cg about 75 degrees down near the thumb.

This ball rolls ok, pretty predictable as I wanted but it hardly flares at all. I'm not one to complain and I'm not an idiot who just wants to see loads of lines on the ball, I just want to know if the performance will be affected.

There is more or less ONE oil track around the ball, with a small amount of back-end flare visible beyond it. Its like you would expect to see on a spare ball.

Is this going to pose a problem for me, if I wanted to use this on a bit of oil? I wanted it to be even, and it is, but I'm worried my carry will be really bad if the ball doesn't flare and faces the pocket the wrong way. I haven't used it much yet so haven't really checked out its performance over more than about 6 games practice where it performed ok, but wasn't well matched to the pattern.

1. Is this a problem?

2. How do I increase the flare seperation to solve the problem, if it is one?

Many thanks in anticipation.

 

LuckyLefty

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Re: Increasing Flare Seperation
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2005, 06:20:10 AM »
Are you covering the correct number of boards for the shot??

Then no problem.

Putting a pin 3 3/8 from the pap maximizes flare YOU will get out of a ball.
For example two bowlers one with 200 revs on a certain ball will get 2 1/2 inches of flare.  Another bowler with 500 revs will get 7 inches of flare with the same 3 3/8 pin on the same ball same condition.  Both may cover 12 boards!

As you move the pin away or closer than 3 3/8 you are reducing the core potential  flare of the ball.  1/3 of YOUR maximum flare is reduced for every 1 1/8 move of the pin away from or towards the pap.

ie 4 1/2 pin to pap is 2/3 total flare potential, 5 5/8 is 1/3 the total flare potential of the ball.

SO if your max from a ball at 3 3/8 pin to pap is 4 inches from a ball to get about 1 1/2 of flare is not unexpected with a pin to pap of over 5 inches.

Good lucky!

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blockhater

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Re: Increasing Flare Seperation
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2005, 07:24:32 AM »
Thanks for the response Luckylefty.

I'm well aware of how pin location affects flare potential, and yes I do have adequate maximum flare potential to see more than this from this pin placement. I've had another Ultimate flare 8 inches from a pin 4 1/2 inches above my fingers.

I don't really have this ball in mind for one particular shot and that only, its part of a larger arsenal. I want it to even out hooking backends on longer patterns, primarily, but I like to be creative occasionally and use balls differently to see if I can find something I'm not currently seeing. Hence I want to keep all of my stuff as versatile as possible without sacrificing the primary purpose of having it in my arsenal.

What I'm really looking for is a balance hole solution that will increase my flare seperation for this particular layout. Someone on PBA.com told me to drill as big as possible within legal limits, 3 inches below my PAP on my VAL. Unless I get a major objection from someone on either board with a good reason, I will go with this. I'm slightly reserved as my knowledge on balance holes and their effective use isn't what it ought to be.

Many thanks all the same.