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2EZ

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Need help from the drill gurus
« on: February 11, 2005, 10:24:54 AM »
Trying to set up a ball for the Mrs.:
Wanting something for heavier oil, went with a particle ball and decided to set it up with the pin 2" from pap for early roll.  Had initially intended to place the cg near the mid-grip (2 x 5), so top weight was irrelevant (no balance hole would be necessary).  Now I'm second guessing myself and thinking maybe a 2 x 2, which would require a balance hole - a fairly large one as the ball has 3.2 ounces top weight.
My question: What different reaction would you expect in a ball set up 2 x 5 vs 2 x 2?  
I have two concerns here:
1)I don't want a hook/set reaction, which I'm afraid I will end up with if I go 2 x 5.
2) Really don't want the large balance hole that would be required in a 2 x 2 drilling, with the high top weight (usually if I know I am going to leverage a ball I keep the top weight at or below 2 ounces).
Some stats to help you with your thoughts - she throws 13.5 - 14 mph (Qubica) with low revs and I guess I would say average axis tilt.  Good bowler - currently averaging 200 + in three leagues.
OK guys what do you think?
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Re: Need help from the drill gurus
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2005, 06:26:23 PM »
What ball is it?
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Re: Need help from the drill gurus
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2005, 06:32:42 PM »
I picked up a Visionary Granite Gargoyle - the price was right so if it doesn't work out I'm not out a ton of cash.  As competitive as she is, if I can match a good drill on this ball for reaction but it is just not strong enough, she will probably go to a Lane 1 Carbide Bomb with a similar drill.
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2EZ

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Re: Need help from the drill gurus
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2005, 06:34:57 PM »
Ak - I would add best case scenario would be this ball work well and I won't have to spring for the Lane 1 price
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Re: Need help from the drill gurus
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2005, 07:40:54 PM »
The 2 X 2 drill will be more likely to have a hook set reaction than the 2 X 5.
Can you give some details about her and what she is currently using and the drill?
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Re: Need help from the drill gurus
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2005, 08:30:23 PM »
Storm Track - thanks for the reply.
First, I should say her pap is 5" over, 3/4 up
She currently has numerous balls I've set up:
Lane 1 Dirty bomb 4 x 3 with pin under ring - her best THS ball

X-Factor Reloaded 4 x 4 with pin next to ring - stronger ball for heavier roll
Ultimate Inferno 4 x 4 with pin under ring - this ball was a bust, was supposed to be for more backend, never got a good reaction, polished or scuffed

Lane 1 XXXL  5 x 3 - excellent dry lane ball - she's shot 700 with this ball on fried lane conditions

X-Factor 5 x 4 pin above the bridge, cg kicked out - was her "go to" ball for a long time - great reaction

What we are trying to accomplish is setting up something that will help her score on heavier lane conditions/carrydown.  Her biggest weakness in her game is she doesn't have a lot of hand - an excellent control player , but needs something that will create some area and, more importantly, hit on heavier oil.  Right now the strongest ball she has for oil is the Reloaded.

So, you think I should stay with the 2 x 5??

Thanks again for the help


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Re: Need help from the drill gurus
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2005, 08:36:23 PM »
One side note for Storm Track, - she decided she wasn't going to throw the X-Factor anymore, so I plugged the thumb and drilled it for my span.  The first night with it shot my first 800 - 243 - 279 - 279 = 801
Yeah, she was a little jealous : )
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Re: Need help from the drill gurus
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2005, 11:21:24 PM »
Going on what you have stated about her other balls and that she doesn't get very many revs on the ball I think that a 2 X 5 might burn of energy too fast.
I am thinking more along the lines of:
3 X 4 if she has 40° or less axis rotation
3 X 3 if 40-60°
3 X 2 if 60°+
All drilling pin on the line between PAP and ring.
These would set the core up early and then adjust the surface to match the condition.
My .02 worth.
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Re: Need help from the drill gurus
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2005, 10:01:45 AM »
Storm Track - thanks for the reply.
I'll give it some thought and let you guys know what we decide and how it works out.
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