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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: jpj8k0 on October 15, 2016, 01:04:24 PM

Title: Need layout for low oil volume and short oil length
Post by: jpj8k0 on October 15, 2016, 01:04:24 PM
Have good revs speed 14.5 mph pap. 5 over 3\4 up. Out of ideas to combat dry lanes.Tryed Urethane inconsistent reaction.Auyone know what a label axis drill is?
Title: Re: Need layout for low oil volume and short oil length
Post by: SVstar34 on October 15, 2016, 01:08:59 PM
The layout is not nearly as important as the ball, surface prep, and the bowler
Title: Re: Need layout for low oil volume and short oil length
Post by: BradleyInIrving on October 15, 2016, 04:07:44 PM
SV said it.. If you don't have the right tires (cover) then it doesn't matter what the engine is..
Title: Re: Need layout for low oil volume and short oil length
Post by: charlest on October 15, 2016, 08:21:15 PM
Have good revs speed 14.5 mph pap. 5 over 3\4 up. Out of ideas to combat dry lanes.Tried Urethane inconsistent reaction. Anyone know what a label axis drill is?

Yes, we know what a label axis drrill is, but that is probably not what you need right now.

Yes, the previous two replies are accurate. What's your weakest resin ball before you tried urethane?
Title: Re: Need layout for low oil volume and short oil length
Post by: Channelsurfer on October 15, 2016, 09:31:54 PM
If urethane is inconsistent for you I would be asking myself why.....urethane should give you a very consistent reaction.  No drilling out there will help with variances in ball speed and release which is what I would guess is happening if you are getting inconsistent reaction with urethane.
Title: Re: Need layout for low oil volume and short oil length
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on October 16, 2016, 08:50:35 AM

Anything greater or less than 3 3/8" from PAP (pin placement) should reduce flare.

Personally, I've used several balls drilled 2" pin to PAP for drier conditions with success.  The ball still moves, but is very controlled.  Just an idea if you haven't tried it yet.

Having said that, if you want to open up your angles very much (coast to coast, so to speak) you may need to put that ball away in favor of something drilled stronger and keep it polished. 


Title: Re: Need layout for low oil volume and short oil length
Post by: JohnP on October 16, 2016, 03:32:40 PM
"Anything greater or less than 3 3/8" from PAP (pin placement) should reduce flare."


True for symmetric balls, but not for asymmetric balls.  See the flare charts in the link below.  --  JohnP

http://wiki.bowlingchat.net/wiki/images/a/a5/Updated_Dual_Angle_Guide.pdf
Title: Re: Need layout for low oil volume and short oil length
Post by: ignitebowling on October 16, 2016, 04:15:00 PM
2" pin to pap hooks sooner and flattens out a little better for when the blackened are hooking.

If the problem is getting the ball down lane,  a weaker reactive ball with a 5.5" to 6" pin to pap and a flare reducing weight hole maybe another option.

If you have plastic try adding surface to it like 500/1000 or 500/2000 and see if that works.
Title: Re: Need layout for low oil volume and short oil length
Post by: spmcgivern on October 17, 2016, 08:09:21 AM
I typically use different equipment for short oil than I would for light oil.  Make sure you know which you have.
Title: Re: Need layout for low oil volume and short oil length
Post by: xrayjay on October 17, 2016, 11:09:00 AM
this season in my second shift leagues, urethane is working out great. and the layout is important, but not so much compared to the cover.

I have a breeze, blue hammer, and a lane1 spare ball with a diamond core. I can use all three balls playing outside with the urethane giving me a lot more room for error. All the surface on these balls were adjusted to get the balls to read certain parts of the lane.
(I HATE THE 1500 GRIT ON THE BREEZE!!! I've owned 2 and both OOB covers were O/U!)

I pretty much use one pin to pap position, 4" pin to pan on most of my equipment. And for THS, I don't need no fancy/other layout's.