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lefty50

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Politely... High rev guys and theoretical experts can bypass this one please. I'm interested in practical responses from other low rev players, certainly below 300 and preferably below 250....

I understand the potential of differential, but all too often people talk about theoretical results without looking at the practical impact based on style. For example, last year I mapped out every ball I've used for the last 15 years, and found a consistently favorable result when the differential was above .050, and higher ratings as expected as the potential increased. I use very similar drills, so disregard all the theories of changing differential. From a practical result viewpoint, higher differentials result in a better result for me. For other styles, that is not always the case.

For other low rev players, do you find yourself over a period of time consistently preferring equipment with a higher diff potential? Have you found that balls which others say are great are weak for you and your game?
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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2017, 05:07:41 PM »
WOW! Well that went downhill quickly!
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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2017, 05:16:26 PM »
Anyway, while everyone else gets their panties out of a bunch, let's get this back on subject. My dad, who is a little slower speed with lower revs, prefers pearls with higher dif. It allows him to play his A game line while still staying clean through the heads with punch in the backend. The longer and stronger the ball, the better he likes it. I am higher speed and revs than he is while not being super high in either category. For most of what I bowl on, equipment that works well for him would be catastrophic for me. I prefer something that will keep me out of trouble. Unless I have a lot of oil or tame backends, lower dif balls or anything polished and controllable works best for me.

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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2017, 05:27:03 PM »
This is why we cant have nice things. I remember when the schmuck, cockholes on this site ran off Jeff Carter.
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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2017, 06:38:22 PM »
It's  too bad and unfortunate that both sides can't come to a truce.... this was starting out to be a interesting discussion  :-\

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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2017, 06:44:16 PM »
It's a simple discussion
Cote numbers are merely potential theoretical numbers and should be gauged as such
Diff numbers dictate flare potential which simply relates to the bowlers attributes X flare potential
Higher diff numbers translate to larger potential foot print vs lower diff as well as versatility
Cover is still 70-75% of total reaction...any high end elite player will tell you, they rather have the proper surface vs the proper layout...
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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2017, 07:05:57 PM »
I agree with your assertion RICO..... it's all to relative to the topic.

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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2017, 08:06:29 PM »
It's a simple discussion
Cote numbers are merely potential theoretical numbers and should be gauged as such
Diff numbers dictate flare potential which simply relates to the bowlers attributes X flare potential
Higher diff numbers translate to larger potential foot print vs lower diff as well as versatility
Cover is still 70-75% of total reaction...any high end elite player will tell you, they rather have the proper surface vs the proper layout...

Tell em!!!!! It amazes how people rely on layouts. NONE OF THAT MATTERS IF THE BALL DOESN'T SLOW DOWN PROPERLY.
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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2017, 08:09:24 PM »
Liberal... You gotta be... I thought you promised to put me on your ignore list Lib? No more silent bowing to liberals who can't fathom logic or other schools of thought that disagree with your own. Read your own posts.. See the intolerance. Your days are over Lib......

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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2017, 08:10:15 PM »
It's a simple discussion
Cote numbers are merely potential theoretical numbers and should be gauged as such
Diff numbers dictate flare potential which simply relates to the bowlers attributes X flare potential
Higher diff numbers translate to larger potential foot print vs lower diff as well as versatility
Cover is still 70-75% of total reaction...any high end elite player will tell you, they rather have the proper surface vs the proper layout...

Tell em!!!!! It amazes how people rely on layouts. NONE OF THAT MATTERS IF THE BALL DOESN'T SLOW DOWN PROPERLY.

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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2017, 08:10:59 PM »
It's a simple discussion
Cote numbers are merely potential theoretical numbers and should be gauged as such
Diff numbers dictate flare potential which simply relates to the bowlers attributes X flare potential
Higher diff numbers translate to larger potential foot print vs lower diff as well as versatility
Cover is still 70-75% of total reaction...any high end elite player will tell you, they rather have the proper surface vs the proper layout...

Tell em!!!!! It amazes how people rely on layouts. NONE OF THAT MATTERS IF THE BALL DOESN'T SLOW DOWN PROPERLY.

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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2017, 11:55:47 AM »
I am a low rev right hander with medium to slightly below average ball speed.  Over the years many of my favorite balls have been low rg, high diff pearls.  In recent years where I bowl more and more on sport patterns and less on higher scoring house shots the correlation does not seem so high.  I also think that the higher diff is more important on symmetrical balls than asymmetricals for me. 

Bottom line, I think your observation on high diff makes sense, but I think other variables such as ball speed and axis rotation might have an impact on your preference. 

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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2017, 12:19:44 PM »
As someone who has worked in IT for 20 years (whatever that has to do with this discussion, I don't know...) Allow me to speak on the subject.

The right tools for the right outcome. I don't use regular ram when building a Freenas box because it should use ECC to use ZFS, which is highly preferred and recommended. I could use non ecc ram and xfs instead, but for the practical application, I'll choose the right tools for the job. RAIDZ2 usually fits my needs.

Now since you're a lefty, MOST times you're going to see a need on a house shot to utilize more diff for lots of different reasons. Less traffic, less of a track, less hand. So where I would be able to use a ball with a lower diff because my side is completely different than the left side, you need the help from the ball. So I can start with a Night Hawk SE, and then jump into the puddle with a Dream On and bump the track. You will more than likely never experience that. So IN YOUR CASE, higher diff makes sense.

Also, allow me to defend Rico. The man knows more than 10 of us put together, and since you seem to be too insecure or stubborn to accept it, allow me to reiterate that he's correct.

Also, don't use your career as justification for being a snob.

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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2017, 01:01:03 PM »

...Also, don't use your career as justification for being a snob.


To which of them was this statement directed?  :o   ;D
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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2017, 01:13:25 PM »

...Also, don't use your career as justification for being a snob.


To which of them was this statement directed?  :o   ;D

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Re: Practical application of differential potential in a low rev game
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2017, 07:15:52 PM »
As someone who has worked in IT for 20 years (whatever that has to do with this discussion, I don't know...) Allow me to speak on the subject.

The right tools for the right outcome. I don't use regular ram when building a Freenas box because it should use ECC to use ZFS, which is highly preferred and recommended. I could use non ecc ram and xfs instead, but for the practical application, I'll choose the right tools for the job. RAIDZ2 usually fits my needs.

Now since you're a lefty, MOST times you're going to see a need on a house shot to utilize more diff for lots of different reasons. Less traffic, less of a track, less hand. So where I would be able to use a ball with a lower diff because my side is completely different than the left side, you need the help from the ball. So I can start with a Night Hawk SE, and then jump into the puddle with a Dream On and bump the track. You will more than likely never experience that. So IN YOUR CASE, higher diff makes sense

As a lefty, I totally agree.  It's a different game on that side.  Not much area, but stays the same. 
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