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soonerdallas

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problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« on: January 26, 2010, 12:01:39 PM »
my driller drilled out two thumb slugs and put the IT system in with no problem. then the next two the slug went in but wouldnt turn at all. so we plugged them and they worked so we thought the problem was because we were drilling into an existing thumb. but then we did a plugged ball today and had the same problem. any thoughts? cause any little bit helps. also there has been no problem with smaller drill bit
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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2010, 08:04:55 PM »
ive had this happen on mine a couple of times.  what i found (with me at least) was i need to sand the top sleeve a little more and it worked.  what i usually do now is install the IT test it with my slug, then install the top sleeve and it seems to work out fine.

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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2010, 08:15:29 PM »
we can get the top or bottowm of slug to fit in easily. and we have tried sanding it out more and it doesnt help at all
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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 08:20:07 PM »
Might not be a problem with the drill bit. On the first 1 3/8 sleeves they were SLIGHTLY SMALLER than 1 3/8! Check out the vid from VISE INSERTS on different problems that have surfaced with the IT system.
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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 08:32:12 PM »
We just got the system from vise two weeks ago. i figured they would have given us the newer model sleeves
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raiderh20boy

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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2010, 08:34:09 PM »
Again, I'd watch the vid on troubleshooting IT. Viseinserts.com
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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2010, 08:37:51 PM »
we watched the vid and we did the test where u put the slug in the top sleeve upside down to see if it fits and it does. and it doesnt say anything else about it on the video besides that
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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2010, 08:42:13 PM »
One of the problems is that different color 1 3/8 thumb slugs have different OD's, thats why they came out with the larger sleeve. Not sure, but I think I may have been the one to call them up and alert them to the problem. The black ones always fit perfect, but the other colors are always tighter.  After you glue in the sleeve, use your bevel sander to make the sleeve larger and you will not have any problems.
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soonerdallas

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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2010, 08:50:24 PM »
All i use are black slugs. we have sanded a top slug for 30 seconds straight. do we need to do it even longer
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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2010, 08:53:24 PM »
drill might be traveling due to different densities? Are you sanding the sleeve or the insert? Should be sanding the sleeve.
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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2010, 08:59:29 PM »
How much do you file down the top of the hole before you insert the sleeve ?  What I have started to do, is to insert the sleeve onto the insert tool and see how tight the hole is before I glue it in.  IF I can keep the sleeve in place and move the insert tool up and down, then everything should be alright.  But I still would use the bevel sander to make it larger.

Also, you mentioned you are sanding the top of the slug, I hope you meant the top sleeve inside the ball.
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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2010, 09:01:48 PM »
Yes i meant the top sleeve sorry
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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2010, 09:12:55 PM »
Just a suggestion drill your hole, back out bit and vacuum and run the drill back into the hole again. You will be surprised the amount of material removed. Storm balls were very good at this especially the rad cores.
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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2010, 09:19:20 PM »
what type of drill or mill you got?

I encounter some when the machine shake too much and the pitch change due to the vibration.
When drilling plugged thumb holes make sure drill is sharp and drill it slow
keep checking for gage for movement.

you going to have to replug the hole and redo it.

and next time before and hammer the safty molloy and can put the top sleeve and the installer and turn it. If it stuck or kind of hard to turn then hole pitch move due to movement.


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Re: problem with 1 3/8 drill bit for IT system.
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2010, 09:25:21 PM »
We just tried sanding out top sleeve and it cracked a little. should we drill out top sleeve and see if the slug will fit into ball without it and then put a new sleeve in. that way we know the problem is the sleeve
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