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bowler851

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Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« on: September 23, 2015, 02:38:43 PM »
Why do certain pro shops scribe the ball and leave permanent marks instead of just using yellow pencil. Just had an internet company drill a couple balls for me and was disappointed with this. 
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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #61 on: September 25, 2015, 01:46:27 PM »
The point I'm trying to make is, that while using a pen to make a fine line and not leave a permanent mark is okay.

But you would have to be careful, some inks may not be as easily removed and could cause you to leave a mark that was difficult to remove or permanent.

Which was what you were trying to avoid in the first place by using a pen.
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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #62 on: September 25, 2015, 02:25:11 PM »
I've got yellow wax pencils that dont completely disappear just from wiping off. Hate then. They also stain clothes :(
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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #63 on: September 25, 2015, 02:27:33 PM »
I've yet to not have acetone clean off a ball...
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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #64 on: September 25, 2015, 02:40:47 PM »
I've yet to not have acetone clean off a ball...

240 grit works well too.

Does ones method for drilling also play a roll?

Would drilling total span vs cut to cut be an easier more accurate route?  It seems a lot easier and easy to see if your off and correct without issue instantly……. Assuming your lines are correct
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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #65 on: September 25, 2015, 02:41:47 PM »
slow day at work has me pondering, if grease pencil markings are left over on ball is said ball legal in USBC competition?

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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #66 on: September 25, 2015, 02:43:23 PM »
slow day at work has me pondering, if grease pencil markings are left over on ball is said ball legal in USBC competition?

According to usbc rules any ball is legal until told other wise
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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #67 on: September 25, 2015, 02:45:56 PM »
Any way is the best when done properly
Center cuts (again done correctly) is the most accurate
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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #68 on: September 25, 2015, 02:55:04 PM »
It seems easiest to me because as soon as the bit hits the line you see if its right or not by making a dot the size of a cg marker. If its off its easily corrected.

That's for hitting lines. You can hit them all perfect but if the lines aren't in the correct places… .you have a problem
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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #69 on: September 25, 2015, 03:31:21 PM »
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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #70 on: September 25, 2015, 03:38:13 PM »
Huge (problem) difference in hitting lines and applying them properly
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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #71 on: September 25, 2015, 06:38:31 PM »
I don't drill many balls myself.  I draw some layout lines and hand it to someone who does it faster and better.  Can I drill accurately?  Yes.  I'm just slower.

I'm not trying to defend mediocrity.  I've seen some horrible work done by people who shouldn't be in the pro shop business at all.  The Ric Hamlin's (there's only one) can do things instinctively that many people have to take time to learn and try to perfect.   

On a message board like this it's easy to pick apart words and criticize others.  I know Ric and respect him very much.  His knowledge has taken decades to acquire.  (I'll never forget the time he gave us layout advice on a guy who actually tracked ACROSS the finger holes (sideways) and it was spot on.)

The discussions here CAN be enlightening at times.  I don't hold any ill feelings towards guys who disagree with my statements at all.  We're all coming from different paths, but hopefully trying to help our sport.   

I do need to get a microscope for 1/128 of an inch, but my eyes are getting as old as the rest of me. ;)
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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #72 on: September 25, 2015, 09:52:06 PM »
So you're p'od because a ball you ordered was "scribed" not pencil marked that fit fine?
Scribing was a trick of the trade way back when on "tour" when that actually existed and before that most drillers adapted that skill for accuracy

So whats your complaint? Accurate drill measurements? Marks on the ball? What is the problem besides " no one asked me"?

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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #73 on: September 26, 2015, 05:46:31 AM »
It's like buying a new car, u know eventually it will get a scratch, but u don't expect it to come with them. I think it looks stupid especially on the Melee because of the color of the ball.

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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #74 on: September 26, 2015, 12:09:00 PM »
It's like buying a new car, u know eventually it will get a scratch, but u don't expect it to come with them. I think it looks stupid especially on the Melee because of the color of the ball.



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Re: Scribing vs. Yellow pencil
« Reply #75 on: September 26, 2015, 12:29:55 PM »
It's a personal thing - no right or wrong answer.

Personally, I bought a used ball once that had scribe marks. Had to have the ball plugged and redrilled and the scribe marks were nowhere near the new holes so a bit distracting.

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