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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: bowler851 on September 23, 2015, 02:38:43 PM
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Why do certain pro shops scribe the ball and leave permanent marks instead of just using yellow pencil. Just had an internet company drill a couple balls for me and was disappointed with this.
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Seems to me the driller who uses etching is likely to give more accurate drills. There is a big difference between the width of an etch and a yellow pencil line.
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Seems to me the driller who uses etching is likely to give more accurate drills. There is a big difference between the width of an etch and a yellow pencil line.
It is not very attractive, don't know anyone who would want this, I've never had a problem of a drilling before being accurate before this and I've never had a ball scribed before
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Scribing has always been considered to give more accurate drillings. Unless the scribe marks are really etched deep into the ball, they'll disappear after a couple sandings.
While it may be aesthetically unpleasing to a lot of people, it doesn't affect the balls performance.
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Agree, but driller should ask customer first before doing such a thing.
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honestly, I don't really care. I don't think anyone cares how another person's ball looks with the scribe lines. I know people spend "x" amounts of money on ball, (if online, must be cheaper) but I've never had people look at my ball and say anything about it.
I've sold over 15 used balls the years before with 100% of them with scribe lines. No body complained about it. These balls are going to get jacked up anyway with every use.
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The person I go to just scribes a 90 degree line at each finger hole. He said it is because there is too much margin for error with a wax pencil also. I have seen balls with lines everywhere, and yes that is ugly. But the way my driller does it is a neat job while retaining accuracy.
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Why do certain pro shops scribe the ball and leave permanent marks instead of just using yellow pencil. Just had an internet company drill a couple balls for me and was disappointed with this.
I also recently had an internet company drill a bill for me, and it was scribed. That didn't bother me at all, and the more I use the ball and clean it the scribed lines get less and less apparent. I was more bothered by the fact that everything was perfect except the thumb was too big. Needed 3 pieces of tape in the thumb to get it sized correctly. The ball used for the measurements needs no tape at all in the thumb.
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As mentioned before its done on tour so lines aren't rubbed off. Its done in shops because they think it's more accurate.
Sharpen a pencil and draw your lines and they are very thin. Or leave them dull and let it look like crayons. Accuracy can be achieved in many ways. I use pencil, and aim the tip of the drill bit for the center.
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I don't mind it either way if the ball fits. The scribe lines don't need to be more than 1/4" long to be seen, but a sharp pencil also does the job well.
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Before computer/monitors, my mom would get irritated to find wax pencils in my pocket. (And why my clothes smelt like smoke)
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Scribe lines started on tour because when you were drilling 100's of balls the lines of a pencil would/could get wiped off...this eliminated that possibility...
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Scribe lines started on tour because when you were drilling 100's of balls the lines of a pencil would/could get wiped off...this eliminated that possibility...
that's the point they come off, and scribe does not, mark ball, drill ball, wipe off pencil
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Personally, I could care less how the ball looks, smells or what name or logo is on it, it's the performance that means the most for me. Any bowling ball crashing into 30+ pounds of wood is going to get marks, scuffs, and gouges.
Others are different though.
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Well back to the original question.
"Why do certain pro shops scribe the ball and leave permanent marks instead of just using yellow pencil"
Answer: Because they feel it insures a more accurate drilling and it doesn't rub off during handling.
A online ProShop most likely handles large numbers of balls for drilling and scribe them because they don't have time to go back and remark a ball that gets the lines accidentally wiped off.
Also the person laying out the ball might not be the person doing the drilling. It would then help eliminate the differences in driller technique (Such as drillers that "Leave the line" or "split the line" or "Take the line" on how they punch the holes marked with pencil.).
You live and learn, next time you order online (or at the ProShop). Make sure to include in your order that you don't want it scribed.
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What a fascinating topic. All of us looking to bowl better, reaching for knowledge and that extra edge. But... Have you ever noticed how many posts are all about "pretty" balls, and "smells good", then something comes up that actually improves drilling accuracy and people complain? You humans are a strange species to be sure.... I got my first scribed ball when I ordered from Buddies, and EVERY ball has been spot on perfect, all scribed, which by the way proves how they marked it and how close they were on drilling. Truly, this is a badge of honor now and my equipment wears it proudly.
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What a fascinating topic. All of us looking to bowl better, reaching for knowledge and that extra edge. But... Have you ever noticed how many posts are all about "pretty" balls, and "smells good", then something comes up that actually improves drilling accuracy and people complain? You humans are a strange species to be sure.... I got my first scribed ball when I ordered from Buddies, and EVERY ball has been spot on perfect, all scribed, which by the way proves how they marked it and how close they were on drilling. Truly, this is a badge of honor now and my equipment wears it proudly.
I agree 100%
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Improves drilling accuracy would be incorrect. It has no bearing on accuracy.
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Improves drilling accuracy would be incorrect. It has no bearing on accuracy.
Agree 100%. Accuracy is dependent on the person doing the drilling, not the lines on the ball.
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I'm all for aim small miss small. It's more to it then that no matter how you mark the ball.
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I agree that hitting the lines (scribed or pencil) is paramount. My driller once apologized that he missed my span by about a 1/16". I didn't sue him for malpractice or anything... It's a bowling ball that travels 60 feet, not sending a man to the moon. ;)
It's not like I have "board splitting" accuracy...
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My main issue they should of asked me if it was OK to scribe the ball, because I'm not sure how wide spread scribing is, but I've never seen a scribed ball and I'm 44yo. As a company u should give the customer the option.
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When someone uses a scribe it's because they feel it helps them to drill your ball better. I'd not worry, and be glad they care.
As was mentioned earlier you could also request that they not use the scribe in the future if it is a concern.
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There is no excuse for a span being 1/16 off. As long as the driller hits the line, then when using a grease pencil, it is more possible for the span to be 1/16 off than it is when using a scribe
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I agree with Brick. Kid and I will disagree, as always, but I still think that a scribed line, thinner and embedded, is more accurate.
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There is no excuse for a span being 1/16 off. As long as the driller hits the line, then when using a grease pencil, it is more possible for the span to be 1/16 off than it is when using a scribe
Having drilled balls over the years I know that it's possible to miss slightly because you THINK the bit is aligned, but when it actually starts drilling it is slightly different. Go get a tape measure and remind yourself just how small 1/16" really is. I know that there are those who think they can feel that difference on their hand, but I will always question that.
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I agree with Brick. Kid and I will disagree, as always, but I still think that a scribed line, thinner and embedded, is more accurate.
Definitely more accurate when scribed. Every ball I have ever had drilled was always accurate with a scribe line. With a grease pencil, some were pretty accurate and some not so accurate.
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You are all missing the point, it should be customers choice, not pro shop. Have had over a hundred balls drilled zero scribed and no accuracy issues.
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There is no excuse for a span being 1/16 off. As long as the driller hits the line, then when using a grease pencil, it is more possible for the span to be 1/16 off than it is when using a scribe
Having drilled balls over the years I know that it's possible to miss slightly because you THINK the bit is aligned, but when it actually starts drilling it is slightly different. Go get a tape measure and remind yourself just how small 1/16" really is. I know that there are those who think they can feel that difference on their hand, but I will always question that.
Lane, I am one of those that can feel 1/16 off. In fact I can feel 1/32 off. You can blindfold me and I can still feel 1/16 off. Ditto on pitches being 1/16 off.
I am of opinion that a person with stiffer hands/joints will be more sensitive to feel 1/16 off and etc than a person with a limber and flexable hand. A more limber/flexable hand will stretch more, so if a ball span is 1/16 long, the limber/flexable hand will not notice it a much a a stiffer hand/fingers will.
Also the 1/16 off is more noticeable if it is only one finger. Noticeable but not as much if 1/16 off on both fingers.
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You are all missing the point, it should be customers choice, not pro shop. Have had over a hundred balls drilled zero scribed and no accuracy issues.
That you know of.
What I have seen is if the line is there for the customer to see after it is drilled the ball driller will go the extra mile to make sure that the dimensions are accurate and that they do hit it. That is almost like an advertisement to the accuracy of the ball driller, as long as the scribed line is in the correct location.
Don't get me wrong. If you don't want the scribed line then you MUST say something up front. Once the lines are in the ball it is yours if you do not tell the ball driller first. It will not offend the operator if you don't want the scribed lines.
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You are all missing the point, it should be customers choice, not pro shop. Have had over a hundred balls drilled zero scribed and no accuracy issues.
That you know of.
What I have seen is if the line is there for the customer to see after it is drilled the ball driller will go the extra mile to make sure that the dimensions are accurate and that they do hit it. That is almost like an advertisement to the accuracy of the ball driller, as long as the scribed line is in the correct location.
Don't get me wrong. If you don't want the scribed line then you MUST say something up front. Once the lines are in the ball it is yours if you do not tell the ball driller first. It will not offend the operator if you don't want the scribed lines.
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I would of told him not to scribe ball if I knew that's what they do, but have never had anyone ever scribe a ball before, so why would I think to tell someone not to do something that I'm not aware of that that do, it would make more since that pro shop telling me this is what they do upfront
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Agreed that I spent a few moments of shock when I saw my first scribed ball, but I got over it. I also agree that you must "assume" a grease marked ball is the same. At least around here, now that I have my own span and pitch gauges, I GUARANTEE you none of my non-scribed balls that were supposedly matched are equal. I'm just not high enough caliber to have noticed it before.
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Brickguy221,
I know there are some who can actually feel 1/16", and I know there are those who say they can, but can't actually pinpoint what feels different to them.
I've measured balls that the owners say the span is off that are either "dead on" or as close as it gets. If something still feels different I can usually bevel the thumb hole a little and then the span feels "perfect" to the same guy who insisted it was "off". In other words, sometimes it's not even the span.
To those to don't like scribe lines, the driller doesn't need to scribe the whole grip center line, etc. All he should need is a few very small marks to tell him the cut spots. The rest can be done in pencil. These small markings are barely noticeable.
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Brickguy221,
I know there are some who can actually feel 1/16", and I know there are those who say they can, but can't actually pinpoint what feels different to them.
I've measured balls that the owners say the span is off that are either "dead on" or as close as it gets. If something still feels different I can usually bevel the thumb hole a little and then the span feels "perfect" to the same guy who insisted it was "off". In other words, sometimes it's not even the span.
To those to don't like scribe lines, the driller doesn't need to scribe the whole grip center line, etc. All he should need is a few very small marks to tell him the cut spots. The rest can be done in pencil. These small markings are barely noticeable.
I agree and have done this for customers. Good Point!!
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I assume we're taking for granted that the lines were in the proper place to begin with. I'd say it was more important to measure the span correctly (which is an inexact science to begin with) than the actual drill. Hell, if you miss the line, might make a better fit.
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I scribe because I sweat when I drill, and the droplets coming off my head smear the grease lines lol No issue with that when scribing!
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Hey TJ,
Not to hijack the thread but I noticed your signature not reflecting as being the brand manager for 900 Global. Are you still with them?
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In my opinion 1/32" miss is unacceptable...
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If I wore glasses I could see 1/32"
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It's a line not a moving target
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In my opinion 1/32" miss is unacceptable...
+1 ... my point all along.....
And for being 1/16 off, there is NO excuse for that. I've had a slew of balls drilled over my years and the driller that simply eyeballs the bit lining up with the line and drills will be off more than he will be on target. The driller that uses a razor blade or similar device to line up the bit with the line will be dead on every time. I have never had a ball being off even 1/32 when the driller uses the razor blade or similar object method.
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Here's a old article I thought I'd throw in:
A Look Inside the PBA’s Mobile Service Trucks
http://news.pba.com/post/2001/10/19/A-Look-Inside-the-PBAe28099s-Mobile-Service-Trucks.aspx (http://news.pba.com/post/2001/10/19/A-Look-Inside-the-PBAe28099s-Mobile-Service-Trucks.aspx)
excerpt:
"Most pro shops use a grease pencil to mark the balls for drilling," Snellbaker says. "Scribing is much better, since it leaves a permanent record of the work and allows greater accuracy. We drill with an accuracy of 128th of an inch."
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Brickguy221,
I know there are some who can actually feel 1/16", and I know there are those who say they can, but can't actually pinpoint what feels different to them.
I've measured balls that the owners say the span is off that are either "dead on" or as close as it gets. If something still feels different I can usually bevel the thumb hole a little and then the span feels "perfect" to the same guy who insisted it was "off". In other words, sometimes it's not even the span.
To those to don't like scribe lines, the driller doesn't need to scribe the whole grip center line, etc. All he should need is a few very small marks to tell him the cut spots. The rest can be done in pencil. These small markings are barely noticeable.
Lane, the bottom line is that there is simply NO EXCUSE for ever being 1/16 off. Mark the ball right with a scribe or the thinnest line possible with a pencil, line up bit right and the drilling will be right every time. Use wide lines, eyeball the bit lining up with the line and the drilling will be off more times than right.
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So wouldn't it make sense to draw your lines so your not drilling for the bit edge to touch the line or, cut to cut, but instead drill total where you center the drill bit up on the line instead
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Ric Hamlin has drilled balls precisely for years, and so has my driller, who has easily done 20,000 balls in the 20+ years of business. Ric knows who he is. He's VERY talented.
Every once in awhile he'll miss slightly (to him 1/16" was HUGE) which is why he offered to re-do it. I'm the one that said the 1/16" was not a big deal for me. I'm not that precise. If you are, then great. As long as humans are drilling balls, there is a possibility of even the best "missing" his exact line by 1/16" from time to time.
If you only drill one ball a day then you can spend all day being perfect, with your razor blade, etc, but if you have 10-15 to drill eventually you run the risk of being human...
Someday I would like to visit this "perfect world" that some of you live in. ;)
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I'm sorry but that's a horrible defense to failing...if you truly believe that a 1/16" variance is allowable then you should not be drilling bowling balls...or at least in my pro shop
It has nothing to do with being perfect it has to do with doing your job and not looking for on excuses on why you're not doing...
Too many pro shops don't own pencil sharpeners...that's a huge strike one
Use a ball point pin...that'll erase after a short amount of time
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Is 128th of an inch acceptable?
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1/128th is only acceptable if you use white pencil instead of yellow
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my proshop scribes my stuff but they also understand most bowlers dont like it. they ask the customer if they mind the scribe lines. the serious bowlers they know appreciate precision get the scribe lines and and recreational league bowlers get the pencil. i think the scribe lines look sweet
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I'm sorry but that's a horrible defense to failing...if you truly believe that a 1/16" variance is allowable then you should not be drilling bowling balls...or at least in my pro shop
It has nothing to do with being perfect it has to do with doing your job and not looking for on excuses on why you're not doing...
Too many pro shops don't own pencil sharpeners...that's a huge strike one
Use a ball point pin...that'll erase after a short amount of time
+1 ......... gotta side with Ric here as those are my feelings also.
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If you only drill one ball a day then you can spend all day being perfect, with your razor blade, etc, but if you have 10-15 to drill eventually you run the risk of being human...
It doesn't take all day to get a ball perfect. Whether drilling one ball a day or 10-15 balls a day, there is no excuse for being off 1/16. Razor blade or thin pencil or what ever it takes to get it right should be used to insure accuracy, regardless of how many balls the driller has to drill that day. It should also be important to the driller to be as accurate as possible to insure repeat business by the customer. If I go to a driller and he is off 1/16 or more, unless it is a rare occurrence for that to happen with him, I won't be back.
I can't bowl for another 3 weeks yet, but I have 2 balls being plugged and re drilled by a new driller now of which I am to pick up the balls next Wed., so I will see how he does. If off 1/16 or more, rest assured, I won't be back.
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A number of my more recent balls are scribed. At first I was a little upset with the near permanent lines, but then they grew on me and I now like the look.
I have had a few bowlers ask me about the scribed lines. I told them I understand that it more of a professional/accuracy approach to laying out the ball. Guess what...almost all these bowlers now want scribed lines on their balls. I guess they feel their balls are somehow sub-standard to scribed balls. You never know what lights ones fire!
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We use pencil in my shop. Also, the person that lays out and marks the ball drills the ball as he knows how he marked it. If one of my guys lays out and I drill, I always double check to see how he marked as to where to hit the line. I have way too many customers that cry over a small pinhead size dot on there ball, couldn't imagine how bad they would fly off the deep end on a scribes line.
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You have to own something that measures 1/128" first.
I think I'm going to try the pen or fine tip sharpie option. Some pencils just dont hold up well
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The thing with using a pen or sharpie then is the ink maybe soaking in to the cover and/or migrating around do to the surface texture/pores, possibly not being able to clean it off or sand it off because the ink soaked into the pores.
Here's one
Ever notice the the yellow build up on the edge of alot of PSO's prosect/quarter scales?
Do they ever clean it off? How much could that build up throw off the line?
How often do they or span rulers get replaced? plastic expands and contracts, the measuring edge gets wear,. That could affect measurements.
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First of all...oil or any other 'liquid' migrates thru the cover stock...it absorbs plain and simple
I've used ink pens in many situations and I'm fairly certain it had no effect on the reaction
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First of all...oil or any other 'liquid' migrates thru the cover stock...it absorbs plain and simple
I've used ink pens in many situations and I'm fairly certain it had no effect on the reaction
I never asked if ink affected reaction.
This thread was about scribing and the appearance of the ball.
So saying ink has no effect on ball reaction has no bearing on that.
So can all ink lines can be removed.
are there inks that will soak in that you can't just wipe off?
If you use a pen with real free flowing ink will it spread and make your line wider than intended?
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Of you have to ask these questions you prolly fall into the wrong category...
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do pros bowl so good because they have scribed balls and bowl on blue oil sometimes?
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The point I'm trying to make is, that while using a pen to make a fine line and not leave a permanent mark is okay.
But you would have to be careful, some inks may not be as easily removed and could cause you to leave a mark that was difficult to remove or permanent.
Which was what you were trying to avoid in the first place by using a pen.
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I've got yellow wax pencils that dont completely disappear just from wiping off. Hate then. They also stain clothes :(
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I've yet to not have acetone clean off a ball...
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I've yet to not have acetone clean off a ball...
240 grit works well too.
Does ones method for drilling also play a roll?
Would drilling total span vs cut to cut be an easier more accurate route? It seems a lot easier and easy to see if your off and correct without issue instantly……. Assuming your lines are correct
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slow day at work has me pondering, if grease pencil markings are left over on ball is said ball legal in USBC competition?
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slow day at work has me pondering, if grease pencil markings are left over on ball is said ball legal in USBC competition?
According to usbc rules any ball is legal until told other wise
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Any way is the best when done properly
Center cuts (again done correctly) is the most accurate
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It seems easiest to me because as soon as the bit hits the line you see if its right or not by making a dot the size of a cg marker. If its off its easily corrected.
That's for hitting lines. You can hit them all perfect but if the lines aren't in the correct places… .you have a problem
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^^^^B I N G O^^^^
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Huge (problem) difference in hitting lines and applying them properly
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I don't drill many balls myself. I draw some layout lines and hand it to someone who does it faster and better. Can I drill accurately? Yes. I'm just slower.
I'm not trying to defend mediocrity. I've seen some horrible work done by people who shouldn't be in the pro shop business at all. The Ric Hamlin's (there's only one) can do things instinctively that many people have to take time to learn and try to perfect.
On a message board like this it's easy to pick apart words and criticize others. I know Ric and respect him very much. His knowledge has taken decades to acquire. (I'll never forget the time he gave us layout advice on a guy who actually tracked ACROSS the finger holes (sideways) and it was spot on.)
The discussions here CAN be enlightening at times. I don't hold any ill feelings towards guys who disagree with my statements at all. We're all coming from different paths, but hopefully trying to help our sport.
I do need to get a microscope for 1/128 of an inch, but my eyes are getting as old as the rest of me. ;)
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So you're p'od because a ball you ordered was "scribed" not pencil marked that fit fine?
Scribing was a trick of the trade way back when on "tour" when that actually existed and before that most drillers adapted that skill for accuracy
So whats your complaint? Accurate drill measurements? Marks on the ball? What is the problem besides " no one asked me"?
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It's like buying a new car, u know eventually it will get a scratch, but u don't expect it to come with them. I think it looks stupid especially on the Melee because of the color of the ball.
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It's like buying a new car, u know eventually it will get a scratch, but u don't expect it to come with them. I think it looks stupid especially on the Melee because of the color of the ball.
Totally agree!
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It's a personal thing - no right or wrong answer.
Personally, I bought a used ball once that had scribe marks. Had to have the ball plugged and redrilled and the scribe marks were nowhere near the new holes so a bit distracting.
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Personally I loved the scribe have several balls with it don't ever notice it what makes me mad is the cuts and gashes on the ball.
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91% rubbing alcohol will take yellow wax pencil (I hate them too, strictly use the white ones) and Sharpie or other "permanent" marker off balls and it's legal. -- JohnP
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91% rubbing alcohol will take yellow wax pencil (I hate them too, strictly use the white ones) and Sharpie or other "permanent" marker off balls and it's legal. -- JohnP
Good info to have. Thank you
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If a bowler can "feel" 1/32 of a difference in the span, then they probably have the wrong pitches/span combo. Especially if they use inserts, seeing as though an insert can wear down at such a dramatic rate, depending on the bowler, the span could shorten by 1/32 within 20-30 games.
Also, just a slight bit difference in bevel at the top of the hole can make an accurate hit of the span "feel" like it's short or long.
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It funny you say that, My PSO drilled me 3 balls a couple of weeks ago and I was having some issues getting them off my hand. I took them back, we checked everything and figured it out it just needed a miniscule change to my bevel's. Made the change and they are perfect now.
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I was taught with pencil ... after making line you recheck the measurement and decide if need to hit bottom, middle or top of line to adjust for the thickness.
I don't see how anybody can miss by 1/16 or a 1/32. I also don't believe that somebody could actually feel 1/32" either.
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I don't see how anybody can miss by 1/16 or a 1/32. I also don't believe that somebody could actually feel 1/32" either.
Oh, they exist!! They can also feel 1/64" and 1/128"! ;)
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I don't believe the debate should be on feel...the PSO's job is correctly & properly fitting the individual and then duplicating...no one should question another's feel...it is individual whether right or wrong
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I don't believe the debate should be on feel...the PSO's job is correctly & properly fitting the individual and then duplicating...no one should question another's feel...it is individual whether right or wrong
I don't disagree, Ric, I'm just having some fun...
Can I have just a little fun?
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Wasn't directed at you
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I don't believe the debate should be on feel...the PSO's job is correctly & properly fitting the individual and then duplicating...no one should question another's feel...it is individual whether right or wrong
The "debate" should be on whatever the directions goes based on how 6 pages of comments have developed.
Besides, the original post was about the disappointment of their bowling ball being scribbed, and he asked why some pro shops scribe, and some don't. So if you decide to not comment on only that, then you yourself are of topic as well.
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Well thank you for that...feel better?
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Tommygn
Spot on with your comment. Some people's shorts are just to tight, I guess.
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Let's hope you guys don't drill if you're not concerned abt a customers feel and/or opinion since they're the ones paying you..tighten those shorts
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Let's hope you guys don't drill if you're not concerned abt a customers feel and/or opinion since they're the ones paying you..tighten those shorts
That's why I had a hard time finding a shop when I moved here. When I worked in the culinary field, I was picky about my knives and my knife skills. If I couldn't cut a 5 oz tenderloin exactly!!! then I'm cheating the customer and/or hitting my food cost. After years of handling knives and being picky about how it "felt" on my hand, I could cut a 4 to 16oz meat/fish exactly without using a scale. (I was under the wing of a grandmaster chef and he don't mess around).
So, you drillers should hit your lines exactly too!!! It's not impossible, mistakes do happen, but if you're not taking pride at hitting lines, or listening to the customer.....see ya!
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Xrayjay do not come on here talking food……. Now I'm hungry thinking about surf and turf. That's just wrong
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Let's hope you guys don't drill if you're not concerned abt a customers feel and/or opinion since they're the ones paying you..tighten those shorts
That's why I had a hard time finding a shop when I moved here. When I worked in the culinary field, I was picky about my knives and my knife skills. If I couldn't cut a 5 oz tenderloin exactly!!! then I'm cheating the customer and/or hitting my food cost. After years of handling knives and being picky about how it "felt" on my hand, I could cut a 4 to 16oz meat/fish exactly without using a scale. (I was under the wing of a grandmaster chef and he don't mess around).
So, you drillers should hit your lines exactly too!!! It's not impossible, mistakes do happen, but if you're not taking pride at hitting lines, or listening to the customer.....see ya!
4 to 16 oz? Dang, I think even I could hit a hole that large. ;-)
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Xrayjay do not come on here talking food……. Now I'm hungry thinking about surf and turf. That's just wrong
What, Surf and turf?? how bout some real food! Made paella with shrimp, bass, chorizo sausage, and pork bellies.
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Milo, we competed in the kitchen when cutting meats to exact weight and Julian cuts to size too.... Maybe drillers should have competition too lol
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Let's hope you guys don't drill if you're not concerned abt a customers feel and/or opinion since they're the ones paying you..tighten those shorts
Feel is my absolute paramount objective when I drill. But there is also the real world of a bowlers hand changing from day to day, and even from hour to hour. That's why there is bowlers tape.
It has happened all too often when a bowler brings in a ball and they say it's 1/32 or a 1/64 off, the drilling is either way too stretched, or way too short, or pitches are off for what the customers hand says it should be, and they notice that minuscule of a difference.
Bottom line, if the span and pitches are CORRECT, a 1/32 or 1/64 would not be noticeable, period. It's about finding that sweet spot for the customer.
And here's the issue. It's not that when I drill the ball that I make a mistake, but it's when the bowler is out of town at a big tourney, or nationals, something of that nature, and they get a ball drilled that may miss a slight bit. If I did my job correctly from the get go, and I have the proper span and pitches, then the bowler won't be affected by a 1/64 or 1/32.
...And if you think a 1/64 or a 1/32 should matter, I hope all of your customers change their inserts about every 20 games, so they have that same span never change. Just sayin