quote:I actually would go with longer pin outs for pin axis(4"+) to eliminate the need for an X-hole. That is if you're putting the pin directly on your PAP.A guy that used to drill my balls as a youth would sometimes set me up with "Half-Leverage" as he called it, which was just about a 1 1/2" pin to PAP and a 1 1/2" CG to PAP with the X hole on the PAP. I remember those balls turning the corner a bit harder than traditional pin axis layouts for me.---------------------DP3Respect the Game