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General Category => Drilling & Layouts => Topic started by: Greg T on January 07, 2008, 06:35:34 AM

Title: Survey
Post by: Greg T on January 07, 2008, 06:35:34 AM
Given no specific conditions, what would everyone's preference? A low grit cover (500 to 1000) with a higher (over the fingers) pin,.....or....

A lower pin with a higher grit(4000 or polished) surface??



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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: Dan Belcher on January 07, 2008, 02:44:23 PM
No matter what the layout, I like moderately higher grit surfaces.  Most of my equipment is sanded to 2000 and/or polished.  For me, anything rougher than that rolls too early even on higher volumes of oil.
Title: Re: Survey
Post by: Sawuser on January 07, 2008, 04:51:44 PM
How can you ask that question on those terms Greg?
In my house I prefer pin over middle finger polished.
In a house across town I would probably start with pin under dull!
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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: Greg T on January 07, 2008, 08:59:54 PM
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How can you ask that question on those terms Greg?
In my house I prefer pin over middle finger polished.
In a house across town I would probably start with pin under dull!
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  I'm just trying to get a cross section of opinions on which to base my next question. Lower pins will be earlier, as will the lower grit. Higher pins tend to be later as do higher grits. so was wondering which way most people go. Pin height or surface?



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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: 1MechEng on January 07, 2008, 09:20:33 PM
Since I know nothing about the lane conditions /coverstock / core shape, and I have to assume my style of play, I will choose a moderate grit (1500-2000) and a pin that gives me a moderate amount of roll vs. snap - maybe right of ring finger.

The more you know about your own game and style, the lane conditions you will experience, and the goal of the ball (spare ball vs. strike ball), the better you can hone in on what "the right ball layout and grit" would be for you for any particular situation.
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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: Greg T on January 07, 2008, 09:51:05 PM


 Maybe I asked the question kinda funky. Lets try this. Given your current conditions, lets say you wanted the ball to move sooner. Disregarding the cost and hassle of plugging, would you choose a lower pin or a lower grit surface?

 Now, if you wanted to go a longer, would you want a higher pin or a higher grit surface?
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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: bowl 2 win on January 07, 2008, 09:57:10 PM
Drill every ball the same, either high or low pin and just use different surfaces. Thats what makes up a great deal of your ball reaction.
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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: Greg T on January 07, 2008, 10:08:36 PM
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Drill every ball the same, either high or low pin and just use different surfaces. Thats what makes up a great deal of your ball reaction.
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 I'm not talking about me. I know what I do and it works just fine. i'm taking a survey to see what others do.




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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: DP3 on January 07, 2008, 10:14:34 PM
Always surface over pin placement for earlier/later reads distance wise.

I have 4 balls pin over bridge, varying coverstocks/cores/surfaces and see dramatically different reads from them all.  I also have 4 balls pin under bridge and see the varying difference with different grits/polishes/covers as well.
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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: bowl 2 win on January 07, 2008, 10:17:23 PM
Yea, I know. I'm saying thats the easiest way to do it, be yourself, myself or anyone, no one in paticular.

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Drill every ball the same, either high or low pin and just use different surfaces. Thats what makes up a great deal of your ball reaction.
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 I'm not talking about me. I know what I do and it works just fine. i'm taking a survey to see what others do.




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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: triggerman on January 08, 2008, 01:32:29 PM
pin under polished
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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: 1MechEng on January 08, 2008, 01:33:49 PM
Adjust speed / line / or hand position?!
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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: KDawg77 on January 08, 2008, 01:43:41 PM
I'm thinking low pin and higher grit/polish.
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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: DukeHarding on January 08, 2008, 02:56:26 PM
lower pin with higher grit.
Never a high pin w/low grit
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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: novawagonmaster on January 08, 2008, 02:59:44 PM
Surface first.
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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: strikealot on January 08, 2008, 03:03:00 PM
lower pin...i about 1000 is as low of a grit i would use unless a small flood..
i prefer some polish..
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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: Big Columbia on January 12, 2008, 05:13:15 AM
quote:
lower pin with higher grit.
Never a high pin w/low grit


+1 on that.....
Title: Re: Survey
Post by: tenpinspro on January 12, 2008, 06:03:59 AM
quote:
Given no specific conditions, what would everyone's preference? A low grit cover (500 to 1000) with a higher (over the fingers) pin,.....or....

A lower pin with a higher grit(4000 or polished) surface??



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Interesting post Greg T, (good question)

Personally, grit/surface before pin height and distance from pap.  

Reasoning: To help combat any hang or OB existing down lane or to the right which can help open up the shot more.
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Title: Re: Survey
Post by: jbruno6 on January 12, 2008, 06:04:29 AM
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I'm thinking low pin and higher grit/polish.
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I am gald kdawg77 has joined the pin down club.  I am 100% behind pin down and polished.  Control leads to accuracy.




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