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LuckyLefty

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Pin ups for the lefty and pin ups in general.
« on: July 20, 2008, 09:22:40 AM »
I keep seeing people say....well....I have the pin over the bridge or I see pin over the ring and up 2 inches....wow is all I have to say.

My view and observation.....these pin ups really react fast to friction....and they also react later to friction often.  For me on the left....I often find MOST of my pin ups to give me an over under type of reaction.  

Of course I have a pretty on the side release say 60 to 70 degrees.  ie my ball wants to penetrate and flip pretty hard on its own....

In general lately I have gone back to drillings that used to work better in the past pins down slightly and slightly stronger and this allow me to play a little wider on the left and also to not have a sense of the ball "breaking free" (i going past the breakpoint and flipping too hard and too late!

Note my revs about 300 and speed near 15 at the pins when bowling well.

My observation most of these weak pin drillings say 5 3/4  or pin up drillings apply more to crankers, and more to righties(and their increased friction and need to play deeper, and more to up the backers(who need push down the lane).

Your observations and your stats....ie rev rate and axis rotation.

I see so often people these days with "too weak" or "too pin up" which seem to my eye to be presenting this "broken free" look.

An example of this to my eye is this great video from videoballreviews of the BR Twisted Fury

Pin up versus Pin down


Your thoughts, your hand, your specs?

REgards,

Luckylefty




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JessN16

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Re: Pin ups for the lefty and pin ups in general.
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2008, 12:07:13 AM »
I can divide my equipment preferences by "wrist brace era" and "post-wrist brace era."

When I still used a brace (PAP was about 5 1/2 over 0 up): Pins about an inch over the bridge or the ring, fewer than 200 revs, lots of speed, not much axis tilt, the drilling allowed me to store energy for the back.

Now that I've ditched the brace (PAP 4 over 3/8 up): Pins just above or next to ring, revs are up, speed is down 2-3 mph, decent tilt, the drilling allows me to smooth out the reaction and control the breakpoint better.

If I use a pin-over-bridge drilling with my current style, whether I like what I get or not depends greatly on what line I'm playing, the surface prep of the ball and the general aggressiveness or non-aggressiveness of the ball. It brings a lot more variables into the equation than it used to

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LuckyLefty

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Re: Pin ups for the lefty and pin ups in general.
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2008, 07:37:36 AM »
Jess thanks for the informative answer....

Others?  

Do others see this breaking away phenomena when there pins are too far away and their revs and the surface not enough to get the ball to get the necessary midlane?

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Luckylefty
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Re: Pin ups for the lefty and pin ups in general.
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2008, 11:16:00 AM »
To answer your question luckylefty, no. Most of the time I play a little swing shot, like 15 to 8-10. I'm never inside 15. I also throw a lot of particle equipment which gives me a lot of control. The most I do to adjust when the oil goes away is throw harder move a little more left or come around the ball more. My bowling buddies which are all right handed want me to learn to swing the ball even more. I see the need for this, but as you know us lefties always have oil. There's no need to move to much. Because of my high track I tend to get the ball into a roll early. To handle more oil or longer oil I just change balls. The only problem I run into is when I need the ball to make a quick move in a finite area. I'm looking into more reactive equipment for that. I need more of your axis rotation to handle that shot better. 2cents