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northface28

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What causes an inverted track?
« on: April 25, 2007, 06:03:22 AM »
Also, advantages and disadvantages. Is it bad to have this kind of track? What layouts work best for inverted tracks?
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Re: What causes an inverted track?
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2007, 04:15:36 PM »
my friend bowls no thumb and he uses a light oil ball in what I would hands down call a med heavy to heavy oil week in/out. And I always wonredered how he was able to score so good because last season he barely ave 180 and this year he at 200. Could this be because he has an inverted track?
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Re: What causes an inverted track?
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2007, 06:41:26 PM »
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I'm about as inverted as they come, except no thumbers  --  5 3/8 over and 1 3/8 down.  --  JohnP


John,

That is ... diseased.  1.375" down?? Oh, come now!
How do you do that and still actually know all that crap about drilling??? :
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Re: What causes an inverted track?
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2007, 06:45:05 PM »
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Crankers or bowlers that keep the hand behind the ball with the thumb at 2 0'clock and index finger at 10 o'clock, then coming out of the ball late with the fingers will cause the track to invert..


Generally requires a strong wrist position maintained through the release..
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YOU AIN'T GOT AN INVERTED TRACK. NOT THAT I'VE LAST SEEN. (Caps were on; sorry) We've got to get together again this Summer. Your release didn't even look close to be inverted; but who knows for sure.
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JohnP

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Re: What causes an inverted track?
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2007, 10:33:47 PM »
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That is ... diseased.  1.375" down?? Oh, come now!
How do you do that and still actually know all that crap about drilling??? :


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Re: What causes an inverted track?
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2007, 07:44:45 PM »
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That is ... diseased.  1.375" down?? Oh, come now!
How do you do that and still actually know all that crap about drilling??? :


My hand and brain don't communicate.  --  JohnP


Been there; done that. err .... rather, am there; do that.
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Re: What causes an inverted track?
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2007, 11:56:01 PM »
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Hey guys, I track inverted, My pap is 3 1/2" and 1/4" down.
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXo_t9Q1GyU


Just want to let you know 315 without strong Massbias ball is not 315.

I say pin 2 1/2 closer to PAP works best atlest for me that is when I was inverted 1/4 only
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Re: What causes an inverted track?
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2007, 12:30:31 AM »
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per  Webster.... to invert or inversion is to "reverse".   Don't see any relevance here as to tracking closer to fingers or to thumb.   Inversion would certainly apply to a "reverse' flare" as it is a reverse from the norm.


Jargon is oftimes totally unrelated to the actual specific "dictionary" definition of the term. "Inverse" in bowling lingo refers to what we have bene discussing: the relative proximity of the track to the finger holes and the thumb holes.

"Inverse" is a term in Logic. In Logix there is no such thign as the "reverse".
There are  the base, the inverse, the converse and the contrapositive.  When the base statement is true, then the contrapositive is always true. When the inverse is true, then the converse is true and the base is never true. Etc., etc., etc.

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All you guru's get your s--- straight when you start talking.  A track closer to the fingers is nothing more than late finger release, upward  lift on the ball on the side of the ball, and closed fingers at release.  Good description of a no thumber.  A lot of these guys have this release as do a lot of folks who use their thumb.    Generally this release uses more of the ball surface, earlier hook, more hook, better on oil.    In todays game, this is why the thumbless bowlers have a lot of speed or they're toast.


The above ("A track closer to the fingers is nothing more than late finger release, upward  lift on the ball on the side of the ball, and closed fingers at release. " ... "Generally this release uses more of the ball surface, earlier hook, more hook, better on oil.") is all true, as I have stated. So your point is ____ ???
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