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302efi

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Strang tracking....Pic inside
« on: September 17, 2007, 06:47:45 PM »
Ok I got a buddy I bowl with that has a some werid tracking and I'm curious as to how thsi happens. He throws the ball regular, right handed, and puts a decent amount of revs on the ball as well.

Heres a quick pic I made of it, notice how its angled AWAY from the thumb, pretty much the oppisite of an inverted track....

http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic.php?u=22402DRJYk&i=1066402

Anyone know which way the fingers come out for ths ?
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Re: Strang tracking....Pic inside
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2007, 02:52:55 AM »
Just a low, spinner type track. I'd say that is more common with weaker deliveries, where the thumb turns a little too early.
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Re: Strang tracking....Pic inside
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2007, 03:06:41 AM »
Thanks for the quick reply nick !

When you say weaker, do you mean it as in no revs ?

This guy def puts some on the ball and he gets alot of over reaction on our THS.


Also....not sure if the regular rules apply..This guy does sip the Kool-aid..lol
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Re: Strang tracking....Pic inside
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2007, 03:13:51 AM »
You can have a weak release with plenty of revs. Reason he is having over-under on a THS is the ball isn't rolling, is kind of spinning like a top. If he stayed behind the ball better, kept his thumb from rotating over the top of the ball, he'd have a better reaction. (kool-aid or not)
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Re: Strang tracking....Pic inside
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2007, 04:49:17 AM »
Any drills or pitches to correct ?..or is praticing a "correct" release the only thing ?

What about Sarge Easter ?
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Re: Strang tracking....Pic inside
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2007, 05:21:15 AM »
BrunsNick is correct - the ball hardly finishes in the back end. It keeps spinning, what might look impressive, but hardly gets into a forward roll. Deflection and a drastic motion once the ball hits the dry are the result. You get very good length, though.

You can drill a ball to fit such a style, but the best way to change the ball's efficiency is to change the release as such. This ball reaction comes from a twist of the wrist to put revs on the ball - the player does not stay behind the ball and "lift" it with the fingers what would rise the track by tendency. It can also come from a wrist that breaks back during the release, so that the hand comes around the ball too much, topping it. Here, a wrist device can help, but it will not "cure" the release by itself. The player still has to focus on a straight wrist and not to turn the hand upon the ball's release. Tough thing!

A coach would IMHO be the best help, since a remedy is simple, but its implementation very tough because this spinner release will feel very natural.
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Re: Strang tracking....Pic inside
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2007, 05:35:12 AM »
...so since this guys a spinner pretty much, maybe we should kick him off the team ..
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Re: Strang tracking....Pic inside
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2007, 06:43:28 AM »
He might say because you guys are not spinner's then you should be off the team.

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Re: Strang tracking....Pic inside
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2007, 02:19:14 AM »
You're right. It is an assumption, and more than likely, a correct one.
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Re: Strang tracking....Pic inside
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2007, 07:27:41 AM »
Wow this topic made a stir

Check this out...I bowl with the guy tonight and I'm pretty sure I could bring one of his balls home and take a few pics of the track ect...

I'll do some measuring to get tilt and track diameter ?

Sound good ?
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Edited on 9/20/2007 7:28 AM

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Re: Strang tracking....Pic inside
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2007, 07:51:25 AM »
Something tells me that probably still won't be good enough. Don't bother.

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Re: Strang tracking....Pic inside
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2007, 07:53:25 AM »
quote:
Spinner or not...
CGNOMADDAH...


At 7:52 this topic got nasty !


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Re: Strang tracking....Pic inside
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2007, 08:06:13 AM »
I've seen this happen a lot when people have to grip" the ball to hold on to it. Either because they don't put their thumb all the way in the ball or too short of a span or too much reverse or too loose a thumb.
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Re: Strang tracking....Pic inside
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2007, 08:26:50 PM »
my friends son tracks that way, it rotates like a bullet and tracks pretty close to the description, i thought it was a more cuz of lack of revs
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