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Title: When on high friction lanes...
Post by: mrwizerd on June 22, 2020, 10:09:43 AM
...what layouts and equipment do you prefer to use, e.g. pin over/under, surface, etc?

I tried doing Google searches and only found definitions for high friction lanes.
Title: Re: When on high friction lanes...
Post by: TWOHAND834 on June 22, 2020, 01:19:14 PM
...what layouts and equipment do you prefer to use, e.g. pin over/under, surface, etc?

I tried doing Google searches and only found definitions for high friction lanes.

For me I go with lower end equipment and older balls I have in the closet that I used back 15 years ago like a Dry Heat, Green Gargoyle, and G3 Gryphon.  I use my favorite layouts which are typically 5 inch pin to PAP and always have one ball on hand with the pin at 2 inches from my PAP.  Me being a little rev dominate it is difficult for me to use high end equipment or even anything more recent like a Gamebreaker 2 because it will force me deeper in to the lane than I want to be right out of the gate.  I would rather be outside of 3rd arrow and closer to 2nd arrow if possible.  I have a Deep Freeze which allows me to straighten my angles.  But other newer balls that would work well for me would be like a Messenger, Beast, Rhino, and Turbo and maybe even the IQ Tours due to its low flaring core.
Title: Re: When on high friction lanes...
Post by: Jesse James on June 22, 2020, 02:24:42 PM
...what layouts and equipment do you prefer to use, e.g. pin over/under, surface, etc?

I tried doing Google searches and only found definitions for high friction lanes.

For me I go with lower end equipment and older balls I have in the closet that I used back 15 years ago like a Dry Heat, Green Gargoyle, and G3 Gryphon.  I use my favorite layouts which are typically 5 inch pin to PAP and always have one ball on hand with the pin at 2 inches from my PAP.  Me being a little rev dominate it is difficult for me to use high end equipment or even anything more recent like a Gamebreaker 2 because it will force me deeper in to the lane than I want to be right out of the gate.  I would rather be outside of 3rd arrow and closer to 2nd arrow if possible.  I have a Deep Freeze which allows me to straighten my angles.  But other newer balls that would work well for me would be like a Messenger, Beast, Rhino, and Turbo and maybe even the IQ Tours due to its low flaring core.

And there you have it! He pretty much covered all the areas! I like using older equipment because of the milder coverstocks! 2" pin to pap works fantastically and gives one a nice arc to the pocket. I also use a lot of entry level balls for this purpose as well. My favorite is a Scout Reactive with surface and a mild arc drilling. Messenger, Beast, Rhino, Twist, Turbo, or the Storm tropical line is good for this also!
Title: Re: When on high friction lanes...
Post by: Impending Doom on June 22, 2020, 08:02:55 PM
When I see high friction lanes, I tend to look at the pattern and go from there. If it's a house shot, you want to use slower response balls, with either a little surface or a slip agent, depending on volume. Places with guardian or really beat up mids, slip agent. I also use a larger val angle to tighten up the flare. Some of the best balls I had for that use case was a Stinger 2 piece pearl 5.5*65 with control it on it. More recently, I liked my X 5*65 to control motion. If I was going to choose a ball right now to get me out of trouble, I'd probably try a Venom Recoil 30*5.5*65 to get it to hook set and adjust the cover accordingly.
Title: Re: When on high friction lanes...
Post by: Good Times Good Times on June 22, 2020, 08:44:18 PM
I guess it depends on where the hook is.....and go from there.
Title: Re: When on high friction lanes...
Post by: mrwizerd on June 23, 2020, 08:33:14 AM
Thank you everyone for your thoughts, insights, advice, etc, it sounds like I am on the right path.

I have a tournament coming up (on high friction lanes), I have been thinking of taking an IQ Solid and IQ Emerald, but I've also been looking at the Hustles INK, 3TP, and RAP.

Most of my layouts, I believe, have a 5" pin-to-pap, the next time I'm at the pro shop I will discuss a 2" pin-to-pap layout with them.

Thank you again.
Title: Re: When on high friction lanes...
Post by: TDC57 on June 23, 2020, 09:17:31 PM
Two words: Motiv Thrill!!!
Title: Re: When on high friction lanes...
Post by: leftybowler70 on June 23, 2020, 09:55:15 PM
Two words: Motiv Thrill!!!

Agreed; Have this ball for dryer lanes, and high friction conditions. Great piece.